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  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
    Dave, you'll get a back number as I have done on the occasions I have requested a copy. Surprisingly, no one from IRR has then followed up to see if I like the magazine sufficiently to subscribe.

    My main bleat about IRR, is that not all of the reviewers have the gravitas which Gramophone had in its heyday. TBH, some of the reviews ramble and one doesn't get the kind of contextual knowledge and sheer literary elan which writers like Robert Layton or Richard Osborne were able to impart. Added to that, in the editions I saw, they were short of the features one used to enjoy in the pre-Haymarket Gramophone (e.g. Sounds in Retrospect; Quarterly Retrospect; Collection; Spoken Word; news and interviews; Critics' Choice etc).
    They could do a whole lot worse than bring Charles Hopkins back, too...

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    • doversoul1
      Ex Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7132

      Dave
      This is not new. IRR offers on their website a free sample copy:

      A recent random month sample copy (free, except for postage & packing)


      I requested a copy recently and was very impressed by the contents and the appearance.

      Incidentally, there is also ‘gift subscription’. This is a good time to drop a hint or two amongst your family.

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      • VodkaDilc

        Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
        Dave, you'll get a back number as I have done on the occasions I have requested a copy. Surprisingly, no one from IRR has then followed up to see if I like the magazine sufficiently to subscribe.

        My main bleat about IRR, is that not all of the reviewers have the gravitas which Gramophone had in its heyday. TBH, some of the reviews ramble and one doesn't get the kind of contextual knowledge and sheer literary elan which writers like Robert Layton or Richard Osborne were able to impart. Added to that, in the editions I saw, they were short of the features one used to enjoy in the pre-Haymarket Gramophone (e.g. Sounds in Retrospect; Quarterly Retrospect; Collection; Spoken Word; news and interviews; Critics' Choice etc).
        Comparisons with Gramophone in its prime are fairly meaningless. IRR is the best magazine which is available now.

        The lack of a follow-up to see if you want to subscribe is typical of IRR's civilised style. Imagine the deluge of calls you would receive if you showed interest in most other products these days - and were rash enough to give your contact details. IRR knows that if you want to subscribe you will let them know - or, like me, buy it from a shop each week, in order to ensure that I get a pristine copy. (My postman is excellent, but they employ a brigade of creasers and manglers at the sorting office.)

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20576

          I've merged the two threads of the same name.

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          • Karafan
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 786

            Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
            My main bleat about IRR, is that not all of the reviewers have the gravitas which Gramophone had in its heyday. TBH, some of the reviews ramble and one doesn't get the kind of contextual knowledge and sheer literary elan which writers like Robert Layton or Richard Osborne were able to impart. Added to that, in the editions I saw, they were short of the features one used to enjoy in the pre-Haymarket Gramophone (e.g. Sounds in Retrospect; Quarterly Retrospect; Collection; Spoken Word; news and interviews; Critics' Choice etc).
            Have to agree with you there Sir V., it is that self same breadth of knowledge and the virtuosic literary sweep a John Steane, Richard Osborne or Robert Layton would bring that I miss (Osborne on Giulini's Vienna Bruckner 8, a memorable example, "...which glows, in this magnificent new transfer, like Carrara marble lit by the evening sun".)

            I do subscribe though nonetheless and have also resubscribed to the Gramophone - though more than anything to plunder the archives.
            "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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            • Thropplenoggin
              Full Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1587

              Originally posted by Karafan View Post
              Have to agree with you there Sir V., it is that self same breadth of knowledge and the virtuosic literary sweep a John Steane, Richard Osborne or Robert Layton would bring that I miss (Osborne on Giulini's Vienna Bruckner 8, a memorable example, "...which glows, in this magnificent new transfer, like Carrara marble lit by the evening sun".)

              I do subscribe though nonetheless and have also resubscribed to the Gramophone - though more than anything to plunder the archives.
              I wonder if that made it into Pseuds Corner.
              It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11774

                I am beginning to regret renewing my membership . The december issue , including as it does some interesting lengthier featured reviews at the start, contains numerous reviews by the weakest reviewers. The editor seems to take a perverse pleasure in allotting the number of discs to be reviewed in inverse proportion to the quality of the reviewer - perhaps they have more time on their hands than the other contributors ?

                Old fashioned it may be but one review contains a particularly inelegant split infinitive .

                Poor stuff - does anyone edit these reviews ?
                Last edited by Barbirollians; 03-12-13, 00:05.

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                • Thropplenoggin
                  Full Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1587

                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  I am beginning to regret renewing my membership . The december issue , including as it does some interesting lengthier featured reviews at the start, contains numerous reviews by the weakest reviewers. The editor seems to take a perverse pleasure in allotting the number of discs to be reviewed in inverse proportion to the quality of the reviewer - perhaps they have more time on their hands than the other contributors ?

                  Old fashioned it may be but one review contains a particularly inelegant split infinitive .

                  Poor stuff - does anyone edit these reviews ?
                  Is it a case of tut-tut, Tuttle? I haven't received my copy yet (as a new subscriber, I had to chase them up when my first one never arrived )
                  It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11774

                    Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                    Is it a case of tut-tut, Tuttle? I haven't received my copy yet (as a new subscriber, I had to chase them up when my first one never arrived )
                    Tuttle and Jameson seems to have half the magazine to themselves .

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                    • jayne lee wilson
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 10711

                      Glass half-full or half-empty? David Gutman on Petrenko's DSCH 4, Patrick Rucker on that Hyperion Hough/Wigglesworth Brahms, Nigel Simeone on Brabbins' Hindemith and Chailly's Brahms cycle, Piers Burton-Page on Elder's Holst and Delius, Richard Whitehouse on Turnage's Speranza ... all very good, considered writing - and reading....

                      ...which led directly to orders being placed!

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                      • pastoralguy
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7818

                        I renewed my subscription today. Yes, there are some dodgy reviews but, for me, it simply reinforces my feeling that the best judge of a cd (or any other recording), is ME! Yes, I value others opinions but, in the final analysis, it's my opinion that counts.

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                        • Thropplenoggin
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1587

                          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                          Glass half-full or half-empty? David Gutman on Petrenko's DSCH 4, Patrick Rucker on that Hyperion Hough/Wigglesworth Brahms, Nigel Simeone on Brabbins' Hindemith and Chailly's Brahms cycle, Piers Burton-Page on Elder's Holst and Delius, Richard Whitehouse on Turnage's Speranza ... all very good, considered writing - and reading....

                          ...which led directly to orders being placed!
                          What about van Zweden's Bruckner 8? A recommendation in November's issue. Others in the cycle have received glowing encomia.
                          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11774

                            Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                            Glass half-full or half-empty? David Gutman on Petrenko's DSCH 4, Patrick Rucker on that Hyperion Hough/Wigglesworth Brahms, Nigel Simeone on Brabbins' Hindemith and Chailly's Brahms cycle, Piers Burton-Page on Elder's Holst and Delius, Richard Whitehouse on Turnage's Speranza ... all very good, considered writing - and reading....

                            ...which led directly to orders being placed!
                            Very true - which is why it is a shame the magazine is spoiled by giving most CDs to review to its worst reviewers.

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                            • Ferretfancy
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3487

                              I was interested to read David Gutman'r review of the Petrenko Shostakovich 4, since he seems to share most of my reservations about the performance and recording. Most other reviews I have seen have lavished praise on all the Petrenko issues so far, it seems as if new must always be better, but like Mr Gutman I think that better performances can be found elsewhere.

                              On the other hand, I can't support Piers Burton Page's enthusiasm for the Holst Hymn of Jesus and Delius Sea Drift, if you want to sense their strangeness go to Boult for the first, and perhaps the first Hickox recording for the second. The Naxos sound is very vague, and the offstage chorus in the Holst lacks real magic.

                              So, there we are. In the end the only thing that matters is your ears and brain with reviews to steer you most of the time in the right general direction.

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                              • VodkaDilc

                                I have still not worked out what some readers have against certain reviewers. And I certainly won't be worried by a split infinitive. I've said it before, but if a reader has a problem he or she should contact the editor. She responds to emails - and she answered the phone once when I rang. (Make sure you pronounce her name properly if you speak to her - she is splendidly scary if you get it wrong.)

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