What music can you not stick ?

[Nick Armstrong]

That unbelievably crass Danzon Cubano by Copland just played by Rob C on the Breakfast programme. Wretched piece

Had to be switched off with all speed (nearly spilt my cappuccino groping for the remote)

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

Jim Reeves Benjamin Britten Mahler Wagner Opera Long Organ works not by Bach Birtwhistle inter alia [and hip hop rap Celine Dion ......]

the point of such a thread is that disgust, being a universal emotion, is a primary basis of social bonding - if we are not disgusted by the same things we are estranged in some degree ... how could i possibly relate to anyone who finds ecstasy in Peter Grimes or The Nose? or trust their judgement? [and of course vice versa] and so i am struggling not to be rude to those who mention modern jazz, who fail to find beauty in Dolly Parton's later recordings in which she reworks her blue grass roots .... [as opposed to her hair which has no roots to speak of]

oh yes and minimalism, that italian piano chappie who must not be named, the unhip, the uncool, the square boring stodge that can be made of classical music pre 1945 Jerusalem the Coors Status Quo David Essex LLOYD WEBBER and his warbling ex missus HAIR JOSEPHS TAILOR le parapluies de cherbourg ...... any thing by or about american teenagers on principle ...

i could go on .... but i feel much better now, thank you

[Suffolkcoastal]

Danzon Cubano actually sounds better in its original two piano version. The trouble is that it now turns up every 3-4 weeks on Breakfast or on another programme, it and extracts from Rodeo, plus a couple of other works seem to be all that is broadcast by Copland, his important works hardly get a look in these days on R3 and is a prime example of R3 doing possible serious damage to the standing of a composer by continually playing only a select handful of works by that particular composer, which aren't necessarily that composer's best works. Another example is Khachaturian R 3 has broadcast 6 pieces so far this year which consist solely of either the Adagio from Spartacus or the Sabre Dance!

[Ferretfancy]

Suffolkcoastal,
I support you completely regarding Copland, although I love Appalachian Spring and other popular works by him, he also wrote so much good music which hardly gets played at all. Statements, for example, or the Symphonic Ode. I'm sure that the composer himself would have not expected Danzon Cubano to be aired almost every week.
I can't agree with you so readily about Khachaturian, I'm afraid. Apart from the well known works mentioned, and possibly the Piano Concerto, I would say that he's an almost completely worthless composer. Still, we can't like everything!
Bws.
Ferret

[Suffolkcoastal]

I do agree that Khachaturian is not the equal of Copland as a composer, but I don't write him off completely the Piano, Cello & Violin Concertos, the 1st Symphony and some of the solo piano works are worthwhile, I was just using him as an example of the continual playing of just a couple of short extracts can do a lot of harm to a composer.
Many of Copland's major works seem to have currently disappeared from R3 schedules, Statements is very approachable and the Symphonic Ode is hardly ever heard these days. The Short Symphony is a minor-masterpiece IMO and it and other key works like the Piano Variations are also brodcast a lot less. One of my favourite Copland works is the Nonet one of the most satisfying of his chamber works and I also have a 'soft spot for Dance Panels, Inscape and Music for a Great City, the 2nd movement of the latter is one Copland's most haunting pieces and when I first acquired a recording of it I had to play the work 3 or 4 times I was that moved.

Bws
SC

[Ferretfancy]

Suffolkcoastal

How nice to find somebody who enjoys Dance Panels and Inscape. I used to find the Clarinet Concerto a bit too astringent for my taste, but not any more, so I'm probably ready for the Piano Variations. Vitebsk is fascinating too.
Bws.
Ferret

[Roehre]

suffolkcoastal,

your remarks re Copland:

[Nick Armstrong]

Danzon Cubano actually sounds better in its original two piano version. The trouble is that it now turns up every 3-4 weeks on Breakfast or on another programme, it and extracts from Rodeo, plus a couple of other works seem to be all that is broadcast by Copland, his important works hardly get a look in these days on R3 and is a prime example of R3 doing possible serious damage to the standing of a composer by continually playing only a select handful of works by that particular composer, which aren't necessarily that composer's best works.

Bang on cue: 8.44 16.2.11, Copland, *uckaroo Holiday from "Rodeo"...

[Uncle Monty]

I echo the praise of a lot of Copland's work. Perhaps you could say he "went a bit silly" in his Paris years, but why not? And when he did find his level, as it were, there was a lengthy stream of substantial and attractive work. (I'm about to play Down A Country Lane, by the way -- dates from 1964, really clean and fresh.)

Also, I agree that Khachaturian is seriously underrated, and I have made an effort to listen to a lot more of his work in recent years. Considering he was working under the Stalinist cosh, accused of the dreaded formalism (particularly ludicrous in his case), he did what he had to do to survive, and did it well.

When I was very little, the Waltz from Masquerade seemed to be on the radio all the time -- it's only now that I listen to it properly after so long that I realise how splendid it is. (But you can stuff that Spartacus thing )

[3rd Viennese School]

I get shouted down on occasions for stating that I don’t care much for Elgar, Britten or Brahms and yet Britten is allowed to state that he doesn’t like Brahms much either!

3VS

[Quarky]

What music can I not stick?

.......................anything by Verdi.

[StephenO]

Anything by Gilbert and Sullivan, anything involving a countertenor and most of the Baroque repertoire.

Verdi, though, is second only to Wagner as an opera composer. OK, make that fourth after Wagner, Mozart and Richard Strauss.

[Barbirollians]

Stephen I agree he is second - but with Mozart first . Wagner and R Strauss well behind with Puccini in third .

[Beppe]

OK - an obvious one to start - Carmina Burana - dreadful rubbish .

I agree. I have a disk from the library sale I got for a buck and frankly it is hedonistic trash. I should recycle the case and trash the rest.

[MrGongGong]

I agree. I have a disk from the library sale I got for a buck and frankly it is hedonistic trash. I should recycle the case and trash the rest.

The rice is included

But no apologies for this again