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  • silvestrione
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1708

    #16
    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
    Richard Capell's Schubert's Songs is the classic Schubert companion. My Pan paperback is from 1973 (95p) and I believe it has not been not re-issued since, but is available second hand. Mine is falling to bits.
    I see I can get that for 1p + postage! Does that have texts, Gurnemanz?

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    • gurnemanz
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7388

      #17
      Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
      I see I can get that for 1p + postage! Does that have texts, Gurnemanz?
      No texts and at 290 pages in a small format, it is not so compendious and it is not done schematically song by song. It has chapters on various topics as well as discussion of individual songs, so you have to use the index. He has selected musical examples and translations. Some songs get short shrift but it is full of incisive comments and well worth having. The 2nd Edition is edited by Martin Cooper, father of Imogen.

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      • teamsaint
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 25210

        #18
        Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
        Does anyone know how it compares with the much cheaper Fischer-Dieskau Bk of Lieder? E.g. I have the huge EMI Schubert lieder box, and would like a book of texts to follow (the texts are on one of the CDs, but I don't find that too manageable).
        This site is just an amazing reference.

        I have to say that on a cold winter afternoon, I do enjoy a quiet sit down with some Brahms or Schubert and translations on this site to hand.
        Magic.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • silvestrione
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1708

          #19
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          This site is just an amazing reference.

          I have to say that on a cold winter afternoon, I do enjoy a quiet sit down with some Brahms or Schubert and translations on this site to hand.
          Magic.
          Thanks for the tip teamsaint, looks good!

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          • Acavus
            Full Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 32

            #20
            The booklets accompanying the individual Hyperion Schubert Edition releases contain texts, the Wigmore translations, and exhaustive commentaries on each song by Graham Johnson. The commentaries were not released with the complete edition, but are being published in an expanded form in three volumes by Yale University Press in the spring of 2014. A must for any true Schubertian, but it will probably cost a small fortune so better start saving now!

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            • amateur51

              #21
              Originally posted by Acavus View Post
              The booklets accompanying the individual Hyperion Schubert Edition releases contain texts, the Wigmore translations, and exhaustive commentaries on each song by Graham Johnson. The commentaries were not released with the complete edition, but are being published in an expanded form in three volumes by Yale University Press in the spring of 2014. A must for any true Schubertian, but it will probably cost a small fortune so better start saving now!
              This is wonderful news, Acavus. The man's a(n opionated) genius, imho

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              • gurnemanz
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7388

                #22
                Originally posted by Acavus View Post
                The booklets accompanying the individual Hyperion Schubert Edition releases contain texts, the Wigmore translations, and exhaustive commentaries on each song by Graham Johnson. The commentaries were not released with the complete edition, but are being published in an expanded form in three volumes by Yale University Press in the spring of 2014. A must for any true Schubertian, but it will probably cost a small fortune so better start saving now!
                Very good news. I have been waiting for this ever since the complete box came out without any commentaries and I only have a few of the original individual artist issues.

                You can, of course, look up the song notes on the Hyperion website, so if the book is prohibitively expensive I might opt out, (even though having it as a book would be much more convenient.)

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                • Karafan
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 786

                  #23
                  And, though I have all the individual releases and their wonderful notes, a book version might well be less taxing on eyes rapidly approaching the half-century mark

                  K.
                  "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                  • silvestrione
                    Full Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1708

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                    And, though I have all the individual releases and their wonderful notes, a book version might well be less taxing on eyes rapidly approaching the half-century mark

                    K.
                    Yes, exactly why I have now invested in the Fischer-Dieskau Book of Lieder. Might actually get round to the EMI 17 CD Schubert box, now!

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                    • verismissimo
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 2957

                      #25
                      One of my most treasured (and best value) investments in recent times was the Hugo Wolf anniversary box from EMI:

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                      • DublinJimbo
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1222

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Acavus View Post
                        The booklets accompanying the individual Hyperion Schubert Edition releases contain texts, the Wigmore translations, and exhaustive commentaries on each song by Graham Johnson. The commentaries were not released with the complete edition, but are being published in an expanded form in three volumes by Yale University Press in the spring of 2014. A must for any true Schubertian, but it will probably cost a small fortune so better start saving now!
                        That's wonderful news! This is the first time I've heard a firm publication date mentioned. (I wonder what 'expanded form' means? Goodness knows they were extraordinarily detailed to begin with.)

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                        • amateur51

                          #27
                          Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                          One of my most treasured (and best value) investments in recent times was the Hugo Wolf anniversary box from EMI:

                          http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wolf-150th-A...words=wolf+emi
                          Agreed - a wonderful set to dip into frequently

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                          • Stanley Stewart
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1071

                            #28
                            Oh, what a surprise! Hadn't previously realised that the EMI Wolf Anniversary boxset was quite different from the EMI HW Society, complete edition 1931.38 which has long since been on my shelves, initially as an LP boxset, finally as a 5CD remastered set. Omission will be rectified at the end of the month. Due thanks for the alert here.

                            Time, too, to revisit Frank Walker's 1968 revised substantial biography, Hugo Wolf. Literally a consummation of words and music.

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