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  • VodkaDilc

    #31
    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
    That LPO/Mackerras recording sounds tempting! What's the overall opinion? There's no reviews on amazon?
    It's also got a good version of Falstaff on 'the other side'.

    Just for reference (and to show the cover design), it's this one:



    Interestingly, the spine caption says Boult is conducting! Some mix-up at the printing stage?
    Last edited by Guest; 12-06-13, 08:46.

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #32
      As long as the rest is right, no matter eh?
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 20592

        #33
        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
        Have you tried the Hallé/Elder recording, Alpie?
        I haven't but I'll be guided by your recommendation.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #34
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          I haven't but I'll be guided by your recommendation.
          Not really a recommendation, Alpie (I don't know the recording): knowing your admiration for Elder's Apostles, I thought you might want to explore a recording you hadn't mentioned.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Pabmusic
            Full Member
            • May 2011
            • 5537

            #35
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Not really a recommendation, Alpie (I don't know the recording): knowing your admiration for Elder's Apostles, I thought you might want to explore a recording you hadn't mentioned.
            Well I'll recommend it, then.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20592

              #36
              That'll do.

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              • LaurieWatt
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 205

                #37
                Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                The Bernstein Enigma Vars is a real challenge. But in the right mood it hits the spot!
                I remember hearing Bernstein conducting the BBCSO in the Enigma Variations at the Royal Festival Hall, presumably just before recording it. I remember absolutely hating it. I saw the late Peter Stadlen, the Daily Telegraph reviewer sitting in the stalls in the interval and asked him what he thought of it. He said 'vat did yOu think of it?'. I said that I thought Elgar had dedicated his variations affectionately to his friends depicted therein, not in memory of them!'. He said 'may I quote you?'. He didn't, of course!

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #38
                  Interesting anacedote there LW! I do rather like the way LB conducted Nimrod, in 6. What dfo other people think? Should this be in 6 or in 3?
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • Pabmusic
                    Full Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    Interesting anacedote there LW! I do rather like the way LB conducted Nimrod, in 6. What dfo other people think? Should this be in 6 or in 3?

                    Definitely in 3. You have to remember the original metronome mark was crotchet = 63. Elgar changed it to 54 only after the first performance, when Jaeger badgered him. In his 1920s electric recording he takes it quite quick.
                    Last edited by Pabmusic; 13-06-13, 11:28.

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                    • Cheapskater

                      #40
                      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                      That Sinfonia of London/Barbirolli record is very,very special.

                      Also -

                      Cello Concerto - Du Pre,LSO,Barbirolli.
                      Violin Concerto - Kennedy,LPO,Handley.
                      Sea Pictures - Janet Baker,LSO,Barbirolli.
                      Cockaigne - Philharmonia/Barbirolli
                      Falstaff - Halle,Barbirolli.
                      Enigma Variations - Philharmonia/Barbirolli.
                      Piano Quintet - Schiller,Coull Quartet.
                      String Quartet - Brodsky Quartet.
                      Violin Sonata - Menuhin.
                      Symphony no 1 - LSO,Mackerras.
                      Symphony no 2 - RPO,Mackerras.
                      I think I'm the only person in the world who rates the Mackerras Symphonies.
                      You're not the only one to rate Mackerras for the Symphonies! I have most of the other version but it's Charlie that gets the plays. I also rate his interpretations highly for other composers works. I also have Mackerras/MSO for the Enigma Variations, another favourite play of mine.

                      It's a shame that we have no way of voting for a proposed best recording on the forum? This could give us a clearer view of the majority opinion.
                      Last edited by Guest; 13-06-13, 20:39. Reason: further thoughts

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                      • akiralx
                        Full Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 434

                        #41
                        Symphony no. 1 - Philh/Sinopoli
                        Symphony no. 2 - Philh/Haitink
                        Violin Concerto - Kennedy/Handley
                        Cello Concerto - Wispelwey/van Steen
                        Enigma Variations - VPO/Solti or LSO/Jochum
                        Cockaigne - RSNO/Gibson
                        In the South - Halle/Elder
                        Introduction & Allegro - Sinfonia of London/Barbirolli
                        Serenade for Strings - Sinfonia of London/Barbirolli
                        The Dream of Gerontius - Halle/Elder
                        Piano Quintet - Sorrel Qtt/Brown

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #42
                          Originally posted by akiralx View Post
                          Symphony no. 1 - Philh/Sinopoli
                          Symphony no. 2 - Philh/Haitink
                          Violin Concerto - Kennedy/Handley
                          Cello Concerto - Wispelwey/van Steen
                          Enigma Variations - VPO/Solti or LSO/Jochum
                          Cockaigne - RSNO/Gibson
                          In the South - Halle/Elder
                          Introduction & Allegro - Sinfonia of London/Barbirolli
                          Serenade for Strings - Sinfonia of London/Barbirolli
                          The Dream of Gerontius - Halle/Elder
                          Piano Quintet - Sorrel Qtt/Brown
                          Unuisual reccomendations for the symphonies there.I didnt know that Sinnopoli recorded no.1?
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Pabmusic
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                            • May 2011
                            • 5537

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                            Unuisual reccomendations for the symphonies there.I didnt know that Sinnopoli recorded no.1?
                            He recorded them both. No. 2 is a dreadful (so slow) as No. 1 is wonderful.

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                            • salymap
                              Late member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5969

                              #44
                              I can't face going through all my Elgar recordings, cassettes, LPs and CDs, going back to the 1950s but must put in a word for the Tortelier/Sargent Cello Concerto, the Sargent Gerontius, either 1945 {Heddle Nash] or 1954 [Richard Lewis].

                              Also Sea Pictures,Gladys Ripley with LSO,George Weldon, Violin Concerto, Campoli/LPO/Boult and the Violin Sonata and String Quartet with Hugh Bean,David Parkhouse and the Music Group of London Quartet.

                              With apologies for'layout' Itwas meant to be one or two items
                              Last edited by salymap; 14-06-13, 10:01.

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                              • Keraulophone
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 2027

                                #45
                                Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                                I know it's a minority opinion, but I enjoy Bernstein's Enigma when I'm in the right mood.
                                I taped the live broadcast but hardly ever played it, recalling the pained look on the face of that put-upon principal viola in the TV doc. Years later I recklessly spent a couple of quid of hard-earned cash on the DG issue, but I'm still waiting to be in the 'right' mood to play it.

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