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  • richardfinegold
    Full Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 7940

    #46
    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    I am not bothered about the text - it is the music I cannot stand .

    I remember even the note writer for the Fruhbeck de Burgos version - seemed to hear jackboots in the motor rhythms.
    It wears out it's welcome fairly quickly, not unlike most pop music for me. I hadn't listened for years before the Ormandy disc re-ignitied some interest. After a half dozen or so playings I've ODed and suspect it will stay on the shelves for a while. Best enjoyed in small doses.
    When my wife was discovering Classical Music, she fell in love with Bizet's Carmen Suite, and mistakenly bought a disc of CB. She hated CB and never listened for years. She developed a liking for CB however when I was playing and replaying the Ormandy disc, but rather quickly hit her saturation point after her initial infatuation.

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    • Barbirollians
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 12059

      #47
      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      Well on reacquaintance with the piece in the Festival Hall last night, I'm bound to say the only objectionable thing I hear in the music is too much repetition of a number of the sections, whose musical material has a superficial attraction but not enough to remain interesting more than once. Quite a few verses could have been lost from the Spring, Meadow and Tavern sections and the piece shortened by a good 20 minutes with only a gain in my vlew, But in itself I can't hear that the music is any more objectionable than - for instance - Britten's music in populist mode, like Noye's Fludde.

      When played with precision and impact and attention to detail, I enjoyed hearing it again (apart from the longueurs). I think the Cour d'Amours music is particularly felicitous, and the build-up to and final reprise of the 'O Fortuna' passage was pretty thrilling - great work from the LPO percussion and brass

      Give me Liszt any day !!!

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      • Nick Armstrong
        Host
        • Nov 2010
        • 26644

        #48
        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
        Give me Liszt any day !!!




        If ever there were a case of this Forum ramming home the truth of the "one man's meat..." / "à chacun son goût" / "de gustibus..." clichés, this must be it!!
        "...the isle is full of noises,
        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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        • Beef Oven

          #49
          Eugen Jochum's performance is the top of the tree for me, never surpassed



          I remember in the 1990s/noughties Bloomstedt's performance was highly rated. Now available for 37p!!! 37p!! Any takers!!? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...condition=used

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          • EdgeleyRob
            Guest
            • Nov 2010
            • 12180

            #50
            Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
            Eugen Jochum's performance is the top of the tree for me, never surpassed



            I remember in the 1990s/noughties Bloomstedt's performance was highly rated. Now available for 37p!!! 37p!! Any takers!!? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...condition=used
            Go on then,give me 37p and I'll have it

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26644

              #51
              Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
              Eugen Jochum's performance is the top of the tree for me, never surpassed


              Only one I've ever owned.
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12059

                #52
                Liszt's piano concertos are streets ahead of Orff .

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                • Beef Oven

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                  Only one I've ever owned.


                  I had one on EMI's mid-price label, was quite bad!

                  I used to borrow a friend's Bloomstedt from time to time - give me Jochum any day!

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                  • Beef Oven

                    #54
                    Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                    Go on then,give me 37p and I'll have it
                    I'll send you 37p worth of postage stamps on proof of purchase

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                    • Beef Oven

                      #55
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      I make no excuse for bringing you this work of genius again
                      BUT
                      Don't watch if you want to keep your mental image of the piece intact .........



                      Only just seen this - killer!!!!!!!!

                      Nice one MrGG!!!!!

                      Love it - did they do the whole work?


                      I nearly peed myself at 1:47 "...............this octopus, let's give him boots, send him to North Korea"

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        Liszt's piano concertos are streets ahead of Orff .
                        Beethoven's String Quartets are streets ahead of Liszt.

                        No; I'm not sure what the relevance is, either.
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • MrGongGong
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post

                          Love it - did they do the whole work?
                          Sadly not
                          BUT
                          the rice is included

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12059

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Beethoven's String Quartets are streets ahead of Liszt.

                            No; I'm not sure what the relevance is, either.
                            FHGL it is directed at our renowned Lisztophobe _ Caliban - how anyone can slag off Liszt but like that bilge beats me .

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                            • Don Petter

                              #59
                              I, too , could happily do without Lizst, but unlike others with Carmina Burana, don't feel the need for imaginary Nazis under the bed to justify my opinion.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26644

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                [COLOR="#0000FF"]I find from my diary that I shall be at a performance of Carmina Burana tomorrow evening! Played by the LPO, and following Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms...
                                For all those CB fans out there (Barb!! ) you can hear the LPO concert free - preceded by the Stravinsky - here:

                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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