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  • Thropplenoggin
    Full Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 1587

    Originally posted by DoctorT View Post
    May I break into this discussion among friends to recommend the Freiburger Barockorchester recording on Harminia mundi of Le Matin/Le Midi/Le Soir?.
    Kuijken's recent recording of these works with La Petite Band has been highly praised in Gramophone and BBC MM:

    Haydn: Die Tageszeiten. Accent: ACC24272. Buy CD or download online. La Petite Bande, Sigiswald Kuijken


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    • mikealdren
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1199

      For the D major cello concerto, I've always loved the old Gendron performance with Casals conducting, old fashioned but very lovely.

      No mention of the violin of trumpet concertos yet. Grumiaux is excellent with his elegant, poised playing but the orchestral playing is a bit dated. Of more recent versions, I like Isabelle Faust best.

      In the trumpet concerto I have Hardenberger and Nakariakov but Winston Marsalis' version always seems best when I hear it.

      Mike

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      • MickyD
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 4749

        Yes, I'd second that about the Freiburgers, it's a great disc. I notice that there is also a newish version of the same trilogy from Kuijken and La Petite Bande..

        Buy Joseph Haydn - Symphonies 6-8 - The Day Trilogy by La Petite Bande, Sigiswald Kuijken from Amazon's Classical Music Store. Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders.


        ...I wonder how they compare?

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by MickyD View Post
          Yes, I'd second that about the Freiburgers, it's a great disc. I notice that there is also a newish version of the same trilogy from Kuijken and La Petite Bande..
          ...I wonder how they compare?
          Mentioned by Thropps at the top of this "page" (#121). A cursory listen on the Presto website suggests some rather sedate speeds - is Kuijken getting middle-aged in his old age? - whereas the Freiburgers give the Music that "sparkle in the eye" that I so enjoy in these scores: this is the Music of someone expelled from school for cutting of a schoolmate's pigtail! The Freiburgers are also quite a bit cheaper.

          But Kuijken deserves more than a mere "cursory listen", so I shall spotify before dismissing them entirely out of hand.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • MickyD
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 4749

            I don't know about Kuijken, but one thing is certain, I am definitely getting middle-aged to have missed Thropps' mention of the La Petite Bande recording just two messages before my own!

            :(

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            • Tony Halstead
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1717

              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
              Glad to hear about the Freiburgers' Symphonies - I have the Pinnock on DG and have never been entirely satisfied with his approach: the Freiburgers should be excellent.

              And "exquisite" is exactly the word I'd chose to describe the Sinfonia Concertante
              As you very evidently like that Haydn Sinfonia Concertante in Bb for oboe, bassoon, violin and cello, you ought to investigate the 19 ( yes nineteen!) authenticated ones by Johann Christian Bach.

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              • Rolmill
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 634

                Originally posted by DoctorT View Post
                May I break into this discussion among friends to recommend the Freiburger Barockorchester recording on Harminia mundi of Le Matin/Le Midi/Le Soir? I also enjoy the Isserlis/Norrington Cello Concertos, coupled with the exquisite Sinfonia Concertante.
                Yes, I mentioned the Isserlis/Norrington disc back in #23 - I think the sinfonia concertante is his finest concerto and the Norrington performance is lovely (though the Fischer version in his complete symphony box is also very attractive). Thanks for the tip re the Freiburgers, which I will look out for.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                  As you very evidently like that Haydn Sinfonia Concertante in Bb for oboe, bassoon, violin and cello, you ought to investigate the 19 ( yes nineteen!) authenticated ones by Johann Christian Bach.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • vinteuil
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12795

                    Originally posted by waldhorn View Post
                    As you very evidently like that Haydn Sinfonia Concertante in Bb for oboe, bassoon, violin and cello, you ought to investigate the 19 ( yes nineteen!) authenticated ones by Johann Christian Bach.
                    ... and the six CDs of these - with Anthony Halstead / Hanover Band - on the cpo label have given me enormous pleasure.

                    As have their two CDs of his woodwind concertos - three of the overtures - six of the keyboard concertos - five of the symphonies

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                    • MickyD
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 4749

                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      ... and the six CDs of these - with Anthony Halstead / Hanover Band - on the cpo label have given me enormous pleasure.

                      As have their two CDs of his woodwind concertos - three of the overtures - six of the keyboard concertos - five of the symphonies
                      Seconded...ah, the elegance of J C Bach's music - at the moment I only have the box set of the symphonies, but am saving up for the rest! Lovely stuff.

                      I also recommend the Hanover Band's Abel Symphonies for cpo...along with those recorded by La Stagione.

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                        For the D major cello concerto, I've always loved the old Gendron performance with Casals conducting, old fashioned but very lovely.

                        No mention of the violin of trumpet concertos yet. Grumiaux is excellent with his elegant, poised playing but the orchestral playing is a bit dated. Of more recent versions, I like Isabelle Faust best.

                        In the trumpet concerto I have Hardenberger and Nakariakov but Winston Marsalis' version always seems best when I hear it.

                        Mike
                        Marsalis every time but Alison Balsom?
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                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • MickyD
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 4749

                          As for the Haydn horn concerto, my favourite has to be Anthony Halstead with the Hanover Band on Nimbus. You also get the terrific "Horn Signal" symphony no.31 and a Michael Haydn horn concerto. Wonderfully earthy playing.

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                          • Barbirollians
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 11671

                            Argerich in Piano Concerto No11 - sizzling stuff !

                            Isserlis in the Cello Concertos is a recommendation with which I entirely agree but I love du Pre's versions too - the finale of the Concerto in C in particular.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              Getting backi to FJH's Sinfonia Concertante, this is a lovely work of which i have not!
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26524

                                Originally posted by MickyD View Post
                                As for the Haydn horn concerto, my favourite has to be Anthony Halstead with the Hanover Band on Nimbus. You also get the terrific "Horn Signal" symphony no.31 and a Michael Haydn horn concerto. Wonderfully earthy playing.
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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