The Haydn Thread

[Roehre]

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Will give Dorati and his Hungarians a spin later. Not mentioned yet in this thread? But very important in my own growth of appreciation of Haydn.

As they were for me too.
It was the first complete cycle of all 107 + variants.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

On the strength of these recommendations, I've also just ordered Kuijken's Paris Symphonies, as well as his Syms 88-92 for the same label...but this time with La Petite Bande, which I gather isn't quite as polished as the OAE. I wish DHM would put together Kuijken's recordings of the London symphonies in a box, too.

Yes, please! One like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Haydn-London-Symphonies-Nos-93-104-4Cd/dp/B000EBDCUA/ref=sr_1_4?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1364552526&sr=1-4

... but cheaper!


(Incidentally, the Kuijken/LaPetitBande recordings may be less "polished" - but there's a corresponding "grittiness" that produces some wonderful pearls: the best No88 since Furtwangler's!)

[gamba]

Just go to utube, enter ' Han Na Chang, Haydn cello concerto no. 1 in C, 3rd. movement ' - Pure delight & I don't know whether I mean Haydn or Han Na. Certainly her looks towards the the ' old boys 'in the violins are rather unusual for a young female soloist - can't remember behaviour like that in my younger days.

Good to see a musician getting & transmitting so much pleasure from playing Haydn. But then, that's what Haydn is all about !

[rauschwerk]

(Incidentally, the Kuijken/LaPetitBande recordings may be less "polished" - but there's a corresponding "grittiness" that produces some wonderful pearls: the best No88 since Furtwangler's!)

Can't see the point of grit myself. I have the Kuijken set of Nos 88-92 and have listened to it only once. In No 88, both Davis and Szell are indispensable as far as I am concerned. 89 is a rather unremarkable symphony by Haydn's standards. For 90 I think you really need both versions: one with high C horns (eg Goodman) and one with trumpets, low horns and drums (eg Rattle). Goodman and Szell are both excellent in No 92. All these accounts are superior to Kuijken's.

As for Sturm und Drang, Pinnock is your man unless you find his tempi too hectic. Presumably in the interests of fitting three symphonies on to each disc, he does not make as many repeats as he might. I really miss the second one in 49(ii).

The Orpheus Chamber Orchestra made a magnificent series of Haydn recordings on DG (downloads only at present) which demand to be heard. They really shine in the rather mad syncopated finale of No 80.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

All these accounts are superior to Kuijken's.

In the opinion of someone who has "listened to [them] only once". Someone who (at the last count) had played them eighteen times holds them in higher esteem.

[MickyD]

"As for Sturm und Drang, Pinnock is your man unless you find his tempi too hectic. Presumably in the interests of fitting three symphonies on to each disc, he does not make as many repeats as he might. I really miss the second one in 49(ii)."

This is one of the reasons why I have always preferred the Hogwood recordings - every repeat is observed.

[Thropplenoggin]

Bruggen Paris Symphonies - The Saga Continues...

I'm now in a bidding war on the eBay for these CDs. I know you'll all wish me well.

[BBMmk2]

Bruggen Paris Symphonies - The Saga Continues...

I'm now in a bidding war on the eBay for these CDs. I know you'll all wish me well.

Best of luck Throppsd! Let us know how you get on!!

[Thropplenoggin]

Best of luck Throppsd! Let us know how you get on!!

Cheers, BBM. With stalwarts like you in my corner, how can I possibly fail?

[Parry1912]

I wonder if there's any chance of Sony re-issuing Derek Solomons' 1980s Haydn recordings with L'Estro Armonico in one of their bargain boxes?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I wonder if there's any chance of Sony re-issuing Derek Solomons' 1980s Haydn recordings with L'Estro Armonico in one of their bargain boxes?

Ooh! That would be most welcome!

[Rue Dubac]

The piano trios give me enormous pleasure, especially 25-27 by P. Cohen, E. Höbarth and Christophe Coin on HM, and Trio Wanderer's 39, 43-45 also HM. I have not heard the discs, but the Kungsbacka Trio are v.g. live and now recording Haydn for Naxos. Afraid I have no idea how HIPP or otherwise any of these are, just love listening to them. Also Vienna P.T. - nearly forgot!

[BBMmk2]

What's Marc-Andre Hamlin's PCs of Haydn like?

[Thropplenoggin]

What's Marc-Andre Hamlin's PCs of Haydn like?

There's a new disc out of Hamlin in Haydn's PCs on Hyperion this month:



More details and samples here: http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc...7DLNNE,4MYAW,1

[Thropplenoggin]

I found these symphonies by Brüggen/Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment:



Harpsichord continuo-free, I believe. Samples here. Available from Amazon.fr here.

A lot of Brüggen's OOP stuff is available in dribs and drabs on these budget Decca releases, including various bits of Mozart. I'm not sure if these are only available on the continent, as this is listed as an import on the French Amazon, presumably from Germany.