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Julien Sorel
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Originally posted by Julien Sorel View PostIf you dislike "the outrageous rubato and dynamics of Harnoncourt" then you should avoid Fey. He's a Harnoncourt pupil, and he adopts / adapts many of Harnoncourt's rhetorical strategies. Personally I don't dislike what I think it is you're describing (indeed I find it illuminating) so it's all fine by me . But Fey is not un-Harnoncourt-esque.It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius
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Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View PostThanks for the warning, and for your detailed contribution, which I read with much interest. Regarding Fey v Harnoncourt, I find the pupil's symphonies to be less 'in your face' than his teacher, from a simple side-by-side comparison. Perhaps better sonics and balance in the recording help?
If you can hear the Festetics in the quartets, do. Trouble is I bought them as they came out. I'm not sure if they are all available now and in one purchase would be horrendously expensive. The London Haydn Quartet (Hyperion) again have a very particular approach to sound and rhetoric embodied in sound (I know that's not at all clear) but I like them very much.
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I echo Julien's support for the Van Swieten Trio with fortepiano on Brilliant. I play the discs often. The balance of instruments must be nearer to what Haydn would have expected to hear.
I have the Adam Fischer Symphony box but am also fond of Beecham/RPO in the last symphonies. Over the last few weeks I have been greatly enjoying getting to know the Bernstein recordings on his recent large Symphony Box.
Other favourite boxes are the Los Angeles in the String Quartets and John McCabe in the Piano Sonatas.Last edited by gurnemanz; 26-03-13, 10:13.
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At last somebody's mentioned the cello concertos. It was the Rostropovich/ASMF LP on EMI that got me 'into' classical music in the first place. Still a favourite.
Let me also give a plug to the Emerson Q's 2CD set of quartets entitled 'The Haydn Project'. Excellent!
Also worth keeping your eyes out for SH CDs by the Kodaly Quartet on Amazon Marketplace. Some terrific Haydn bargains to be found.Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”
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Originally posted by Julien Sorel View PostIf you can hear the Festetics in the quartets, do. Trouble is I bought them as they came out. I'm not sure if they are all available now and in one purchase would be horrendously expensive. The London Haydn Quartet (Hyperion) again have a very particular approach to sound and rhetoric embodied in sound (I know that's not at all clear) but I like them very much.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostForget the QM in Op. 20. The London Haydn Quartet is the one to go for. Probably worth waiting for them to record Op. 33 too.
The LHQ's Op. 9 and 17 sets are also very special.
Have just heard the London Haydn Quartet on my ipad & am with you all the way !!
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostForget the QM in Op. 20. The London Haydn Quartet is the one to go for.
What is wrong with them - for you - in op 20 here?
From the reviews the London Haydn Qtt certainly look good. I wonder if I shd collect them as they come out - or exercise patience in the hope that hyperion will produce a nice complete box when they've finished....
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Originally posted by vinteuil View PostBryn - I have always enjoyed the Quatuor Mosaïques - in op 20 and in op 33 (as well as in Mozart).
What is wrong with them - for you - in op 20 here?
From the reviews the London Haydn Qtt certainly look good. I wonder if I shd collect them as they come out - or exercise patience in the hope that hyperion will produce a nice complete box when they've finished....
I believe these are period-performances, too. They can be had s/h for much better value than the QMs, now.It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius
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Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View PostAnd the Festetics, alors?
I believe these are period-performances, too. They can be had s/h for much better value than the QMs, now.
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Julien Sorel
Originally posted by vinteuil View PostFrom the reviews the London Haydn Qtt certainly look good. I wonder if I shd collect them as they come out - or exercise patience in the hope that hyperion will produce a nice complete box when they've finished....
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostAny suggestions from anyone for the Piano Music?
These days I like Christine Schornsheim's set very much. Well played and recorded on a wide range of appropriate instruments.
BTW my current favourite among the neglected operas is L'isola disabilita. (Dorati.)
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Originally posted by vinteuil View PostBryn - I have always enjoyed the Quatuor Mosaïques - in op 20 and in op 33 (as well as in Mozart).
What is wrong with them - for you - in op 20 here?
From the reviews the London Haydn Qtt certainly look good. I wonder if I shd collect them as they come out - or exercise patience in the hope that hyperion will produce a nice complete box when they've finished....
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