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  • Roehre

    #76
    Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
    .....
    Will give Dorati and his Hungarians a spin later. Not mentioned yet in this thread? But very important in my own growth of appreciation of Haydn.
    As they were for me too.
    It was the first complete cycle of all 107 + variants.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #77
      Originally posted by MickyD View Post
      On the strength of these recommendations, I've also just ordered Kuijken's Paris Symphonies, as well as his Syms 88-92 for the same label...but this time with La Petite Bande, which I gather isn't quite as polished as the OAE. I wish DHM would put together Kuijken's recordings of the London symphonies in a box, too.
      Yes, please! One like this:



      ... but cheaper!


      (Incidentally, the Kuijken/LaPetitBande recordings may be less "polished" - but there's a corresponding "grittiness" that produces some wonderful pearls: the best No88 since Furtwangler's!)
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • gamba
        Late member
        • Dec 2010
        • 575

        #78
        Just go to utube, enter ' Han Na Chang, Haydn cello concerto no. 1 in C, 3rd. movement ' - Pure delight & I don't know whether I mean Haydn or Han Na. Certainly her looks towards the the ' old boys 'in the violins are rather unusual for a young female soloist - can't remember behaviour like that in my younger days.

        Good to see a musician getting & transmitting so much pleasure from playing Haydn. But then, that's what Haydn is all about !

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        • rauschwerk
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1480

          #79
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          (Incidentally, the Kuijken/LaPetitBande recordings may be less "polished" - but there's a corresponding "grittiness" that produces some wonderful pearls: the best No88 since Furtwangler's!)
          Can't see the point of grit myself. I have the Kuijken set of Nos 88-92 and have listened to it only once. In No 88, both Davis and Szell are indispensable as far as I am concerned. 89 is a rather unremarkable symphony by Haydn's standards. For 90 I think you really need both versions: one with high C horns (eg Goodman) and one with trumpets, low horns and drums (eg Rattle). Goodman and Szell are both excellent in No 92. All these accounts are superior to Kuijken's.

          As for Sturm und Drang, Pinnock is your man unless you find his tempi too hectic. Presumably in the interests of fitting three symphonies on to each disc, he does not make as many repeats as he might. I really miss the second one in 49(ii).

          The Orpheus Chamber Orchestra made a magnificent series of Haydn recordings on DG (downloads only at present) which demand to be heard. They really shine in the rather mad syncopated finale of No 80.

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #80
            Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
            All these accounts are superior to Kuijken's.
            In the opinion of someone who has "listened to [them] only once". Someone who (at the last count) had played them eighteen times holds them in higher esteem.
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • MickyD
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 4748

              #81
              "As for Sturm und Drang, Pinnock is your man unless you find his tempi too hectic. Presumably in the interests of fitting three symphonies on to each disc, he does not make as many repeats as he might. I really miss the second one in 49(ii)."

              This is one of the reasons why I have always preferred the Hogwood recordings - every repeat is observed.

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              • Thropplenoggin
                Full Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 1587

                #82
                Bruggen Paris Symphonies - The Saga Continues...

                I'm now in a bidding war on the eBay for these CDs. I know you'll all wish me well.
                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                • BBMmk2
                  Late Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20908

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                  Bruggen Paris Symphonies - The Saga Continues...

                  I'm now in a bidding war on the eBay for these CDs. I know you'll all wish me well.
                  Best of luck Throppsd! Let us know how you get on!!
                  Don’t cry for me
                  I go where music was born

                  J S Bach 1685-1750

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                  • Thropplenoggin
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1587

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    Best of luck Throppsd! Let us know how you get on!!
                    Cheers, BBM. With stalwarts like you in my corner, how can I possibly fail?
                    It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                    • Parry1912
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 963

                      #85
                      I wonder if there's any chance of Sony re-issuing Derek Solomons' 1980s Haydn recordings with L'Estro Armonico in one of their bargain boxes?
                      Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Parry1912 View Post
                        I wonder if there's any chance of Sony re-issuing Derek Solomons' 1980s Haydn recordings with L'Estro Armonico in one of their bargain boxes?
                        Ooh! That would be most welcome!
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Rue Dubac
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 48

                          #87
                          The piano trios give me enormous pleasure, especially 25-27 by P. Cohen, E. Höbarth and Christophe Coin on HM, and Trio Wanderer's 39, 43-45 also HM. I have not heard the discs, but the Kungsbacka Trio are v.g. live and now recording Haydn for Naxos. Afraid I have no idea how HIPP or otherwise any of these are, just love listening to them. Also Vienna P.T. - nearly forgot!

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            #88
                            What's Marc-Andre Hamlin's PCs of Haydn like?
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • Thropplenoggin
                              Full Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 1587

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              What's Marc-Andre Hamlin's PCs of Haydn like?
                              There's a new disc out of Hamlin in Haydn's PCs on Hyperion this month:



                              More details and samples here: http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/dc...7DLNNE,4MYAW,1
                              It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                              • Thropplenoggin
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1587

                                #90
                                I found these symphonies by Brüggen/Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment:



                                Harpsichord continuo-free, I believe. Samples here. Available from Amazon.fr here.

                                A lot of Brüggen's OOP stuff is available in dribs and drabs on these budget Decca releases, including various bits of Mozart. I'm not sure if these are only available on the continent, as this is listed as an import on the French Amazon, presumably from Germany.
                                Last edited by Thropplenoggin; 03-04-13, 20:19.
                                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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