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  • teamsaint
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    • Nov 2010
    • 25209

    #31
    Originally posted by kea View Post
    For the Brahms Quintets, I suppose it depends on what you're after—if the Hagens aren't to your taste because you're after something more richly romantic, I will recommend the Quatuor Sine Nomine w/Raphaël Oleg (an extraordinarily deep, rich sound to the ensemble, interpretations large-scale and symphonic) or the more middle-of-the-road Nash Ensemble. The Leipziger Streichquartett & Rohde is recommendable for their trademark beautiful tone, and preferable to their Sextets in my view. I find the Raphael Ensemble equally beautiful but a bit too soft-edged and restrained, not as good as their Sextets recording.

    I know this isn't a thread for the Sextets but while people have been recommending the Raphael Ensemble recording of those (which is indeed superb, and the qualities of restraint and soft-edgedness are less problematic there) no mention has been made of two additional recordings: L'Archibudelli (I know I say this a lot, but one of the best recordings of anything, ever) and the Talich Quartet & friends (ordinarily the kind of slow, vibrato-laden performance that would not work for me, but has a sense of rightness in the ensemble playing and large-scale interpretive decisions. I don't know if they ever recorded the Quintets, but if they did I imagine it would also be a recommendation.)

    Surprised to see I am not the only one who prefers Op. 88 to Op. 111—the latter's incredibly powerful first movement is one of my favourite things in Brahms, but the rest of the piece does not really live up to it, whereas Op. 88 seems to hang together better as a work and is no smaller in scale or strength. For instance, the retransition to the first theme in its first movement is for me one of the most dramatic and exciting passages in Brahms's output. But whatever, 111 is generally accepted as the better work so who knows
    L'Archibudelli recording of the Sextets is available on spotify.( and also in the Naxos Library)
    absolutely gorgeous.
    Thanks for a great recommendation.
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    • AmpH
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      • Feb 2012
      • 1318

      #32
      Two contrasting sets which I enjoy very much. The Juilliard Quartet with Walter Trampler (viola) on Sony bring a brooding intensity to these works but still with a sense of flow, whereas the recordings by the Nash Ensemble on Onyx have a more energetic and vibrant feel and more vivid recorded sound.

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      • johnb
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        • Mar 2007
        • 2903

        #33
        Originally posted by kea View Post
        L'Archibudelli (I know I say this a lot, but one of the best recordings of anything, ever)
        Temping.

        The CD seems difficult to get hold of at a reasonable price, at least on Amazon (though they have an mp3 download at £7.99). However, Qobuz have a lossless download for £10.29.

        Listen to unlimited or download Brahms: String Sextets by L'Archibudelli in Hi-Res quality on Qobuz. Subscription from £10.83/month.

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        • vinteuil
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12832

          #34
          Originally posted by johnb View Post

          The CD seems difficult to get hold of at a reasonable price, at least on Amazon ...
          ... amazon.de have some second-hand copies of the Archibudelli at prices that are not too silly :

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          • Dave2002
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 18016

            #35
            Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
            ... amazon.de have some second-hand copies of the Archibudelli at prices that are not too silly :

            http://www.amazon.de/dp/B000025RI5
            Amazon.fr customers billed in France can also have a cheap MP3 - http://www.amazon.fr/Sextet-No-B-Fla...s=archibudelli - not much more than 1 Euro.

            I've not found any other good sources yet for the CD.

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11687

              #36
              I have always been very happy with the Hagens am tempted to get the Raphael Ensemble recordings as their String Sextets are so outstanding .

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              • Dave2002
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                • Dec 2010
                • 18016

                #37
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                I have always been very happy with the Hagens am tempted to get the Raphael Ensemble recordings as their String Sextets are so outstanding .
                I have the Raphael Ensemble recordings - both the sextets and the quintets. Not played for a while, but they are very good. OTOH I like a lot of the work by the Hagens a lot, though I don't know the particular Brahms work by them. Consequently I can't say whether you'd like the Raphals more or less - or just treat them as different.

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