Elgar Symphony No.1: A Quandary

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  • Cheapskater

    #46
    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    With an eye to the future, I recently attended a performance of Elgar symphony no 1 at the Royal Academy of Music conducted by Edward Gardner, the first time I've heard him in this work and he certainly brought a lot to it. He obtained some beautifully quiet string playing as well as some glorious woodwind and brass playing.For me it was also his pacing and his handling of transitions that made the performance so remarkable. For me at least, one to watch
    I agree, one to watch/listen. I saw him on the BBC doc. Elgar, the man behind the mask; he contributed much useful analysis and some excellent extracts from the Apostles. A very good doc, by the way; in the series Elgar, RVW & Delius. Well done Beeb! (BBC Four).

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    • Thropplenoggin

      #47
      Originally posted by Cheapskater View Post
      I agree, one to watch/listen. I saw him on the BBC doc. Elgar, the man behind the mask; he contributed much useful analysis and some excellent extracts from the Apostles. A very good doc, by the way; in the series Elgar, RVW & Delius. Well done Beeb! (BBC Four).
      Thanks to your post, Cheapskater, I found the Elgar doc on YouTube. That's my next 90 minutes sorted, then!

      Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


      EDIT: Does anyone know what the is music that starts at 6.05?
      Last edited by Guest; 17-02-13, 10:08.

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      • Cheapskater

        #48
        Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
        Thanks to your post, Cheapskater, I found the Elgar doc on YouTube. That's my next 90 minutes sorted, then!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V904QpK-Bw
        That will be most enjoyable 90 minutes and with many new discoveries about EE's music & life. But I must go out walking whilst we have the low winter sun.
        Last edited by Guest; 17-02-13, 11:36. Reason: Trypo

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11697

          #49
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Maybe not, but the 1957 Pye version has to be at the top of the tree. Simply phenominal.
          On Dutton now I think must pull it off the shelf for a listen . The live 1958 Halle Centenary Concert version on the BS record is very intense too.

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          • JFLL
            Full Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 780

            #50
            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
            Thanks to your post, Cheapskater, I found the Elgar doc on YouTube. That's my next 90 minutes sorted, then!

            Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


            EDIT: Does anyone know what the is music that starts at 6.05?
            I think it's 'Dream Children' (no. 1 of 2), Throp.

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            • Thropplenoggin

              #51
              Originally posted by JFLL View Post
              I think it's 'Dream Children' (no. 1 of 2), Throp.
              Thanks!

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              • Barbirollians
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 11697

                #52
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                Maybe not, but the 1957 Pye version has to be at the top of the tree. Simply phenominal.
                EA it is a marvellous performance but a constricted and ropey recording for all Mr Dutton's efforts . Such a shame as one gets the feeling that had a first rate recording been made it would have swept the board.

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                • Pabmusic
                  Full Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 5537

                  #53
                  Originally posted by JFLL View Post
                  I think it's 'Dream Children' (no. 1 of 2), Throp.
                  Spot on.

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                  • Pabmusic
                    Full Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 5537

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                    EA it is a marvellous performance but a constricted and ropey recording for all Mr Dutton's efforts . Such a shame as one gets the feeling that had a first rate recording been made it would have swept the board.
                    You're right about the recording, but it was my very first Elgar 1 so I have an affection for it. The more I look around, the more I'm pretty convinced that it's impossible to give a truly poor performance of this work.

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                    • Cheapskater

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                      You're right about the recording, but it was my very first Elgar 1 so I have an affection for it. The more I look around, the more I'm pretty convinced that it's impossible to give a truly poor performance of this work.
                      Quite right Pabs, I have most of the versions and they're all listenable. But as ever, the best is enemy to the good.

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                        Thanks to your post, Cheapskater, I found the Elgar doc on YouTube. That's my next 90 minutes sorted, then!

                        Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


                        EDIT: Does anyone know what the is music that starts at 6.05?
                        Thank you very much indeed for this documentary Thropps!There's another good documentary on youtube about RVW
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • Thropplenoggin

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                          Thank you very much indeed for this documentary Thropps!There's another good documentary on youtube about RVW
                          I'm sure you'll love it, BBM. I found it very well made, instructive and rather moving in parts.

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                          • Cheapskater

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                            I'm sure you'll love it, BBM. I found it very well made, instructive and rather moving in parts.
                            Seconded! I found the Delius and RVW docs also most enjoyable.

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Cheapskater View Post
                              Seconded! I found the Delius and RVW docs also most enjoyable.
                              Thank you people! I will investigate!!
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #60
                                Elgar Documerntary

                                [QUOTE=Thropplenoggin;263152]Thanks to your post, Cheapskater, I found the Elgar doc on YouTube. That's my next 90 minutes sorted, then!

                                Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.




                                I have now watched this documentary. Very rewardi9ng it is too., probably a repeat and may have watched it before but hugely rewarding as Thropps says!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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