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  • amateur51

    #31
    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    1 - Stuttgarters/Norrington (though omitting the out of place Blumine).
    2 - Philly/Ormandy
    3 - Baden-Baden/Gielen
    4 - Clevelanders/Szell
    5 - Stuttgarters/Norrington
    6 - Bavarians/Kubelik
    7 - NYPO/Bernstein (most recent re-master)
    8 - Berliners/Boulez (would be the BBCSO/Boulez 1975 Prom, but for poor old Alberto Remedios who had a bad cold)
    DLvdE - Ferrier/Patzak/VPO/Walter (of course)
    9 - Stuttgarters/Norrington
    10 (Cooke)- Baden-Baden/Gielen
    A very individual list, Bryn - when o when will the Gielen Mahler set appear at mid-price (or cheaper?)

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    • Bryn
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      • Mar 2007
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      #32
      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      A very individual list, Bryn - when o when will the Gielen Mahler set appear at mid-price (or cheaper?)
      I don't regret a penny of the considerable sum I paid for the set (on Mr. Cowan's recommendation following a broadcast, on CD Masters, of the Third). There again, that "considerable sum" (£69.06) was still rather less than it would have been had I bought the individual issues, though they did come with some very interesting 'fill-ups' that were missing from the boxed survey. The performing version of the 10th was on a later, separate, CD. The box came with just the opening Adagio in a different performance.

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      • Wensleydale Blue

        #33
        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
        I don't regret a penny of the considerable sum I paid for the set (on Mr. Cowan's recommendation following a broadcast, on CD Masters, of the Third). There again, that "considerable sum" (£69.06) was still rather less than it would have been had I bought the individual issues, though they did come with some very interesting 'fill-ups' that were missing from the boxed survey. The performing version of the 10th was on a later, separate, CD. The box came with just the opening Adagio in a different performance.
        A sound investment for a boxed set that I've also been looking out for, but which is now £106.92 (!) on the River site

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
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          #34
          Originally posted by Wensleydale Blue View Post
          A sound investment for a boxed set that I've also been looking out for, but which is now £106.92 (!) on the River site
          Well it was back in 2005 that I made that investment. Had the price risen by the national rate of inflation it would now be around £92.80. It is a little surprising that a lower priced re-issue has not emerged. Perhaps sales are still holding up? I doubt that though.

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          • AmpH
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            • Feb 2012
            • 1318

            #35
            Mahler Symphonies Michael Gielen set - best ( new ) price at the moment seems to be £77-99 +p&p from Arkiv. It can be obtained for just over £82 (incl p&p) from the Am marketplace. Possibly slightly lower price from Am Germany.

            I bought the set for around £55 around 2 years ago which is still the best price I have seen.

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            • Alison
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6459

              #36
              Good choices Bryn. No Penguin Guide conformity there. How did you get on with the Boulez Seventh from Amsterdam ?

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20570

                #37
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                1 - Stuttgarters/Norrington (though omitting the out of place Blumine).
                2 - Philly/Ormandy
                3 - Baden-Baden/Gielen
                4 - Clevelanders/Szell
                5 - Stuttgarters/Norrington
                6 - Bavarians/Kubelik
                7 - NYPO/Bernstein (most recent re-master)
                8 - Berliners/Boulez (would be the BBCSO/Boulez 1975 Prom, but for poor old Alberto Remedios who had a bad cold)
                DLvdE - Ferrier/Patzak/VPO/Walter (of course)
                9 - Stuttgarters/Norrington
                10 (Cooke)- Baden-Baden/Gielen
                Dear me! We had to compromise a bit here. No cut and paste for 2-4, 6-8 and 10.

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                • Bryn
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Alison View Post
                  Good choices Bryn. No Penguin Guide conformity there. How did you get on with the Boulez Seventh from Amsterdam ?
                  I've been holding back on it. Might give it a spin tonight. Will it send me back to give the Ceveland recording another try?

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                  • Alison
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 6459

                    #39
                    The Cleveland is surely beyond redemption. You've made want to spin the Boulez 8 though!

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Alison View Post
                      The Cleveland is surely beyond redemption. You've made want to spin the Boulez 8 though!
                      I should perhaps add that I preferred the straight recorded performance broadcast a little before the release of the compiled recording issued by DGG. Alberto's struggle against his ill-health notwithstanding, do try to get to listen to the Proms performance from 1975.

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                      • Bryn
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                        • Mar 2007
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                        #41
                        Just given the RCO/Boulez Blu-ray of the 7th a spin. A wholly different kettle of fish to his Cleveland recording, indeed. There was an odd lapse in line from harps to strings in the first movement (more surprising as there were two concerts from which the Blu-ray was edited) but the control of light and shade was excellent. I very much liked the way the timp opening of the third movement was handled too, and if indeed the opening of the finale is the sunrise, the preternatural light before the sun breaks the horizon was beautifully evinced towards the close of the second Nachtmusik.

                        Thanks for prompting me to get round to it Alison.

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                        • Karafan
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 786

                          #42
                          I see the Sinopoli cycle has been remastered in Germany on DG and is available for a very reasonable sum. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mahler-Symph...0616675&sr=1-1

                          I shall add that to my collection as I always felt he had great sympatico for Mahler.

                          K.
                          "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                          • Bryn
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2007
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                            I see the Sinopoli cycle has been remastered in Germany on DG and is available for a very reasonable sum. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mahler-Symph...0616675&sr=1-1

                            I shall add that to my collection as I always felt he had great sympatico for Mahler.

                            K.
                            Unfortunately I spy that AMSI logo. It does not bode too well for the two channel audio imaging.

                            [Nonetheless, given the generally positive customer reviews, I have ordered the set via the amazon.de marketplace, where it works out at £24.00 including p&p.]
                            Last edited by Bryn; 11-02-13, 22:07.

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                            • Barbirollians
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11709

                              #44
                              Tut Tut off topic stuff !

                              I should be interested to see at the end of the week which recording is most popular for each symphony .

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                              • Wensleydale Blue

                                #45
                                I greatly enjoyed this thread and learnt a lot from it. In an attempt to renergise it I thought I'd try and turn things around a little and suggest a list of 1-9 which which seem to find disfavour or positive vitriol amoungst certain people; either for myself or after reviewing other people's comments from various other sites in the case of those symphonies where I don't have sufficient knowledge or my own recordings are limited. So here goes:

                                1 Rattle - CBSO (what's the Blumine point?)
                                2 Svetlanov (Brittle brass and a scorching pace?)
                                3 Barbirolli - BPO (Does anyone know what they are doing?)
                                4 Abbado (weakest piece in his various cycles?)
                                5 Zinman - Tonhalle (Yawn!)
                                6 Kondrashin (all done and dusted in 65 mins)
                                7 Klemperer (Zzzzzzzzzzzz)
                                8 Tilson Thomas (Glossy but slack)
                                9 Norrington (where's the vibrato Roger?)

                                I've deliberately left out Mr Gergiev as I'm sure some bright spark will just suggest his complete boxed set, but what are your stinkers or the ones that cause you the most angst? And are some of them secretly a guilt pleasure - the scab that you just can't stop rubbing!

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