Mahler's 9 - your selection

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20570

    #16
    Perhaps Mahler would have composed around 25 symphonies by 1935. Another 3 sounds rather conservative.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #17
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Perhaps Mahler would have composed around 25 symphonies by 1935. Another 3 sounds rather conservative.
      Ah, but following the First World War, Mahler took on even greater conducting commitments to restore his personal finances. Psychologically, too, the effects of the War were devastating - like Elgar, Sibelius and Ives, he found his aesthetics and convictions unsatisfactory in coping with what the carnage had revealed about humanity. After a ten-year silence, Mahler returned to composing, but now writing Chamber Music: the String Quartets and Piano Sonatas. There were perpetual rumours of a long-anticipated Opera, but, after the composer's death, nothing was found. Modern scholarship suggests that, at his request, his third wife destroyed the manuscript.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • remdataram
        Full Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 154

        #18
        1 Kubelik, DG
        2 Levine, VPO
        3 Bychkov, WDR
        4 Maazel, VPO
        5 Barbirolli, NPO
        6 Karajan DG
        7 Abbado, CSO
        8 Solti, VPO
        9 Karajan BPO Live
        10 Chailly, Berlin RSO
        Das Lied Klemperer

        Blu-ray 1-7 & 9 Abbado, LFO consistently superb, well filmed and recorded.

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        • Mahler's3rd

          #19
          My appologies Ferneyhoughgeliebte. The Soprano in the 4th is Desi Halban, it's on the "Naxos Historical", label Recorded at Carnegie Hall, from 1945. Kathleen Ferrier is also on the same disc singing Kindertotenlieder, when I was thinking the question through from Barbirollians this morning, I was coming off a night shift, I remember seeing Kathleen Ferrier's picture on the CD Sleeve, Again like a couple of my other selections, technically the recordings are'nt great but as "historical snap shots from the past", just fascinating. I think it would have been great to be present at some of the Bruno Walter Mahler concert's. I chose the LPO/Jurowski as my choice for the 2nd, but the 2nd on the BBC Legends from the Proms in 1963, is electric in terms of atmosphere, listen to that a lot as well, what an event that must have been

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          • AmpH
            Guest
            • Feb 2012
            • 1318

            #20
            1. Concertgebouw / Bernstein
            2. Budapest Festival Orch / Fischer
            3. Bavarian Radio Sym Orch / Kubelik ( live 1967 )
            4. London Philharmonic Orch / Horenstein
            5. London Philharmonic Orch / Tennstedt ( live 1988 )
            6. Berlin Philharmonic Orch / Abbado
            7. Chicago Symphony Orch / Abbado
            8. London Philharmonic Orch / Tennstedt ( live 1991 )
            9. Berlin Philharmonic Orch / Karajan ( live 1982 )

            10. Junge Deutsche Philharmonie / Barshai

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            • BeethovensQuill

              #21
              1 Roth SWR Symphony Orch of Baden-Baden Freiberg
              2 Rattle BPO
              3 Stenz Gürzenich-Orchester Köln
              4 Nott Bamberg SO
              5 Kreizberg Monte Carlo PO
              6 Tilson-Thomas SFSO
              7 Abbado/Nott Berlin/Bamberg
              8 Tennstedt LPO (Studio)
              9 Nott Bamberg
              10 Havent found a perfect recording yet but for the adagio Tennstedt

              Das Lied Klemperor/Karajan

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              • Madame Suggia
                Full Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 189

                #22
                9 GSOH Norrington

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                • Alison
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 6459

                  #23
                  1. Zinman
                  2. Jurowski
                  3. Haitink BPO
                  4. Haitink Concertgebouw live
                  5. Tennstedt live
                  6. Boulez
                  7. Nott
                  8. Tennstedt live
                  9. Haitink Concertgebouw live DVD
                  10 Wigglesworth

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20570

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Madame Suggia View Post
                    9 GSOH Norrington
                    Now you're just causing trouble. What happened to 1-8?

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11709

                      #25
                      They are above in MS's earlier post .

                      If anyone wants to start a Mahler cycle you would not give houseroom to thread ???

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        #26
                        I was going to say Mme cannot have two of the same, but I take her point.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #27
                          If people are going to include Das Lied von der Erde, then I will have no hesitation but including Ludwig, Wunderlich, Phil O and New PO, Klemperer.

                          I also rather like Rattle's Berlin account of the 10th.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • Wensleydale Blue

                            #28
                            Hi - I've been lurking around in the background for a while but this is my first post. As Mahler's music has become something of an obsession of mine over the last six months or so, in no small part due to following up comments and recommendations on this site, my order would be as follows:

                            1 Kondrashin (USSR SO)
                            2 Rattle (CBSO)
                            3 Bertini (KRS)
                            4 Levine (CSO)
                            5 Bernstein (VPO)
                            6 Tennstedt (LSO)
                            7 Gergiev (LSO)
                            8 Sinopoli (PO)
                            9 Moderna (BBC SO)
                            10 Inbal (RSOF)

                            Choosing the 9th was the hardest as I have 12 versions of this and at least half of them are real favourites. Looking forward to the BaL focus on Mahler's 6th this coming weekend

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                            • amateur51

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Wensleydale Blue View Post
                              Hi - I've been lurking around in the background for a while but this is my first post. As Mahler's music has become something of an obsession of mine over the last six months or so, in no small part due to following up comments and recommendations on this site, my order would be as follows:

                              1 Kondrashin (USSR SO)
                              2 Rattle (CBSO)
                              3 Bertini (KRS)
                              4 Levine (CSO)
                              5 Bernstein (VPO)
                              6 Tennstedt (LSO)
                              7 Gergiev (LSO)
                              8 Sinopoli (PO)
                              9 Moderna (BBC SO)
                              10 Inbal (RSOF)

                              Choosing the 9th was the hardest as I have 12 versions of this and at least half of them are real favourites. Looking forward to the BaL focus on Mahler's 6th this coming weekend
                              Welcome Wensleydale Blue

                              An interesting list and an intriguing name - crackin' cheese, Gromit
                              Last edited by Guest; 11-02-13, 12:59. Reason: cheesy amendment

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                #30
                                1 - Stuttgarters/Norrington (though omitting the out of place Blumine).
                                2 - Philly/Ormandy
                                3 - Baden-Baden/Gielen
                                4 - Clevelanders/Szell
                                5 - Stuttgarters/Norrington
                                6 - Bavarians/Kubelik
                                7 - NYPO/Bernstein (most recent re-master)
                                8 - Berliners/Boulez (would be the BBCSO/Boulez 1975 Prom, but for poor old Alberto Remedios who had a bad cold)
                                DLvdE - Ferrier/Patzak/VPO/Walter (of course)
                                9 - Stuttgarters/Norrington
                                10 (Cooke)- Baden-Baden/Gielen

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