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  • Karafan
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    • Nov 2010
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    Tennstedt's live Brahms

    I have recently bought and greatly enjoyed the BBC/LPO two disc set of Brahms 1 & 3 under Tennstedt - recently touched upon on CD Review. I have reviewed it and thought it might be worth sharing:

    "In 1983 the late Klaus Tennstedt was appointed Principal Conductor & Music Director of the LPO, the same year in which the BBC caught him and his 'new' orchestra in this terrific Brahms 3rd at the Royal Festival Hall. Their relationship had begun some five years before and he had guest conducted the a number of times before his permanent appointment, which should come as no surprise when listening to the superb symbiosis between orchestra and conductor captured on this handsome pair of discs.

    Darkly-hued and mysterious, Tennstedt charts a gloriously characterful opening to the 3rd; the strings sweet but never cloying, the woodwind perky and the heft of the whole orchestra, when brought to bear, brooding and dramatically thrilling. Tennstedt reminds us that this opening movement is marked allegro con brio, and there is brio here in ample measure. This is not massive, grandiose music-making, rather here the inner-writing, so often lost on other recordings in a homogeneous mush of sound, is sparklingly delineated; though he is careful to never lets his noted eye for orchestral detail hold the onward surging movement a hostage to fortune.

    The andante is the bucolic intercession Brahms surely intended it to be; sun-dappled and at times gently wistful and the LPO are caught beautifully in what, in the hands of a less able engineering team, is a dry and graceless acoustic. Shortly into the movement, when the clarinets and bassoons take up the pastoral theme it is presented as languidly characterful and unforced, it unfolds exquisitely. When the strings enter later theirs is a swirling, heady cocktail, doubtless just the thing to rejuvenate even the most jaded Brahmsian palate. Tennstedt brings to the fore a real sense of cantabile and the love both he and his players have for this work is palpable throughout.

    The allegretto third movement is once again shaped with care and beauty and there is never a hint of opulent, big-band stodge; the gorgeous theme moves onward at an ideal tempo - neither headlong and reckless nor sluggish and sclerotic. The pulse Tennstedt sets invariably strikes me as perfectly chosen - flowingly lyrical and rooted in an innate sense of the austro-germanic tradition from which it springs. He realises a wonderful sense of true pathos but, in true Tennstedt style, it never descends into self regard or mawkishness and, importantly, it remains piquant and fleet-of-foot throughout.

    The final movement allegro is once again quite naturally spontaneous in feel, tempos well chosen and never undermining the sense of movement. Prophetic and fiery, the orchestra set the hall ablaze and had I been sitting in the South Bank that night I am sure I would have been overwhelmed and thrilled by such playing. Once again, the layers of the orchestral sound are beautifully balanced by Tennstedt, nothing is lost in a miasma of sound: the sonorous brass and woodwinds are cut through by the quicksilver, scurrying strings and all are ideally caught in this live radio transmission which has none of the constrained or boxy limitations which used to be the hallmark of Festival Hall recordings. The elegiac ending is superbly shaped, bringing to a plaintive close a remarkable and memorable reading of this favourite Brahms symphony.

    Tennstedt recorded the first symphony for EMI in September 1983, but the live reading here on the second disc dates from 14th October 1992 and again hails from the RFH. Tennstedt throws red meat to the LPO - and the devour it for him as only they truly can. The portentous timpani opening the first movement are akin to a spiritual battering ram, their relentless thundering evoking a sense of dread and doom rarely so viscerally made. The movement's sense of struggle is never in doubt and the victories are bitter and hard-won. Tension reaches meteoric levels with Tennstedt turning the screw ever tighter, the baleful, doom-filled timps underlining the epic sense of turmoil and battle. The moments of repose, when they do come, are as blessed unction to the sick.

    The andante sostenuto is deftly handled, woodwinds glow and their legato playing is a much needed shaft of sunlight rent through the slate grey heavens made so starkly real in the hellish upheaval of the first movement. The violins and violas gravely beautiful dance enraptures and the theme carried to the conclusion by the spiralling, gleaming violin is imbued with a wonderful serenity and peace.

    The allegretto third movement, with its mysterious C-minor opening, is taken once again at a beautifully judged tempo, so that it canters along in a very spontaneous way, punctuated by superb brass playing, and for once the movement's end isn't made to sound harried or breathless.

    The final movement makes its presence known with the return of thundering timpani and, after a brief oasis of pizzicato-laden tranquility, we are reminded that there is a hell of a struggle that remains unresolved. The luminous, yet sinew-stiffening, brass chorale is a real call to arms here. The listener must seize upon the brief respite provided by the glorious chorale as it makes its appearance before the feverish temperature once again begins to spiral and Tennstedt and his players propel us into the high drama of the symphony's close. Again, superbly paced Tennstedt holds back ever so slightly on the febrile impulse to hurl all to the winds and be damned, and it is only at the very close of the movement that I would have liked him to exercise a little less restraint as the breadth of the closing bars, for me, fractionally dissipates the unearthly, fatalistic tornado of nervous energy he had driven relentlessly onwards, desperately seeking an outlet.

    This live first is to be preferred to the studio reading of nearly a decade earlier. The tension is greater and the thunderbolts are grasped more unerringly.

    The audience are very well behaved throughout and while applause is excised from the third, the audience acclamation makes a throaty & deserving appearance at the close of the juggernaut first.

    The sound as caught on both these discs is first class and though the set comprises two discs, there are no makeweights, the total playing time slightly exceeds the constraints of a single disc, at eighty four minutes and thirty seconds. In fairness though this is sold at the cost of a mid price single CD and, bearing in mind the very high quality of the musicmaking they contain, they should be snapped-up by anyone who loves Brahms or wants to discover more about Tennstedt, surely the most underrated conductor working in London during the 1980s and '90s."
    "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle
  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12247

    #2
    Great review, Karafan. I saw Tennstedt many times in London but, alas, was at neither of these two concerts. I assume that performance of the 3rd is identical to the one which appeared on BBC Legends coupled with a fine Beethoven 7.

    I'm not altogether sure that Tennstedt was under-rated. The LPO loved him and so did his audiences. His Mahler performances swiftly took on legendary status, red letter days in London's concert life that time has not dimmed.

    Anyway, I can feel an urge to flex my plastic yet again.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26533

      #3
      Yes, I wonder about the 'under-rated' point too... but otherwise, fine reading, that review karafan Thanks!

      I'm also tempted now Big LPO and Tennstedt fan here too... I wasn't at either of those concerts either, but one of my most vivid and exceptional concertgoing memories is that team playing Brahms 4 - one of those performances where you're not sure at the end if you've breathed at all during it. Gripping and exhilarating... (I've described here before how I was sitting on the front row of the stalls in front of the violins, on the aisle, grinning like a loon during the scherzo, and KT caught sight of me, did a double-take and gave a big grin back )

      I hope there's a live Brahms 4 in the pipeline (don't remember any microphones at the one I was at, sadly)
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • amateur51

        #4
        I must say that I find it difficult to believe that Richard Wigmore on CD Review and Karafan reviewed the same discs. Wigmore maundered on about slow tempi and Wagnerian heaviness but what I heard from the snippets sounded wonderful and I very much enjoyed Karafan's alternative & enthusiastic reviews.

        I think I was at Tennstedt's concert debut with LPO at the RFH when Lazar Berman played a Liszt piano concerto and Tennstedt boggled us all with a tremendous Prokofiev symphony no 5. I'm a committed Tennstedtophile (or should that be Tennstedter? )

        I am adding this Brahms twofer to my list too

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11680

          #5
          I have never really got the buzz about Tennstedt . I wonder whether he was one of those conductors who was just much better live than in the studio ?

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          • Thropplenoggin

            #6
            An enthralling review, Karafan. Much obliged! If only more newspaper and magazine reviews were so absorbing and well-written!

            I didn't think I liked Brahms. I was quite certain I didn't. The Brahms 1 on this disc made me an instant convert very recently.

            One thing I would say, though, is that I felt there was a noticeable difference in recorded sound quality, the First Symphony (recorded later) being in much crisper and more agreeable sound than the Third.

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            • makropulos
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              • Nov 2010
              • 1673

              #7
              Thanks for this enticing review. It sounds like a splendid release.

              Just one thing. Re the First Symphony you write about "The allegretto third movement, with its mysterious C-minor opening..." Something's got muddled here, since the opening of this movement is neither mysterious nor in C minor (it's in A flat major).

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #8
                Many thanks indeed for sharing your splendid review, Karafan.

                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                I have never really got the buzz about Tennstedt . I wonder whether he was one of those conductors who was just much better live than in the studio ?
                Yes, he was: much better - there was a real sense of occasion, an electricity in concert that never found its way into the studio (well, "static" electricity, perhaps?) - perhaps he just needed Cali in the audience? Comparing the Mahler #2 recordings is to hear two different works by two different conductors - the studio version a decent, okayish run-through of the notes on the page of the score, the Live concert version --- <liftseyestoheavensaswordsfailemoticon>!
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • mathias broucek
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1303

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  I have never really got the buzz about Tennstedt . I wonder whether he was one of those conductors who was just much better live than in the studio ?
                  Oh yes! I failed to hear him many times (due to his poor health) but was lucky enough to see an unforgettable Dvorak 8th (released on BBC Legends). The Dvorak closed the first half and received a standing ovation and loud cheers - par for the course when Mahler or Bruckner closes the concert but not for first half Dvorak...

                  The most recent EMI Mahler box highlights the difference between live and studio as it contains live recordings of 5-7 as well as the studio cycle. I once played each movement of the 6th in the studio and then live performances and the differences were night and day!

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26533

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Yes, he was: much better - there was a real sense of occasion, an electricity in concert that never found its way into the studio (well, "static" electricity, perhaps?) - perhaps he just needed Cali in the audience? Comparing the Mahler #2 recordings is to hear two different works by two different conductors - the studio version a decent, okayish run-through of the notes on the page of the score, the Live concert version --- <liftseyestoheavensaswordsfailemoticon>!



                    Actually, I never had a problem with his studio recordings. The Mahler 3, 6 and 8, and his Brahms 1 and Bruckner 8, were and remain favourites in my collection.

                    He wasn't infallible in concert, either. I went to hear him do Mahler 7 and it was sprawling all over the place I thought, incoherent and seemingly endless... Shortly before or after I heard Abbado do it with the LSO and the piece all made perfect, glittering sense. But then old Claudio is the master of Mahler 7...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      He wasn't infallible in concert, either.
                      No; there was a Lieutenant Kijé I heard that an ad hoc sessions band would've been ashamed of.

                      I went to hear him do Mahler 7 and it was sprawling all over the place I thought, incoherent and seemingly endless... Shortly before or after I heard Abbado do it with the LSO and the piece all made perfect, glittering sense. But then old Claudio is the master of Mahler 7...
                      Ah; the only time I've heard Mahler #7 was in 1983 in the Barbican with Abbado and the LSO. I found it rather a routine run-through.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Nick Armstrong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26533

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        Ah; the only time I've heard Mahler #7 was in 1983 in the Barbican with Abbado and the LSO. I found it rather a routine run-through.

                        Blimey, that's the one I was at. I thought it made sense! (I was with mates from University, we'd come up for the day... We were a little *****d...
                        )
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          Blimey, that's the one I was at. I thought it made sense!
                          So did the majority of the audience, judging by the applause: I think I was the only one (other than members of the press) who wasn't impressed.

                          (I was with mates from University, we'd come up for the day... We were a little *****d... )
                          Ah; an ad-plenty-of-hoc band?
                          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26533

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            Ah; an ad-plenty-of-hoc band?
                            More like ale fellows well-met
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • Barbirollians
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 11680

                              #15
                              Rave review from Richard Osborne in Gramophone- best live version of the Third since the 1949 Furtwangler !

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