Dudamel's New Mahler 9th with LAPO

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11709

    #16
    Barbirolli's Sixth is fierce enough for me - but if you do struggle with his EMI recording the live Testament performance with the same forces is even more remarkable and as noted on another thread quite a bit quicker .

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    • richardfinegold
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      • Sep 2012
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      #17
      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      Barbirolli's Sixth is fierce enough for me - but if you do struggle with his EMI recording the live Testament performance with the same forces is even more remarkable and as noted on another thread quite a bit quicker .

      Sorry Barbs, I knew that you might take offense after I wrote that.

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      • amateur51

        #18
        Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
        Cheers, Ams. ALL Horenstein's Mahler have skyrocketed in recent years, as these BBC Legends recordings have stopped being issued and become popular via forums like, um, this one.
        Maybe ICA, who own the BBC Legends rights I think, will seize the moment & let us have some re-releases?

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
          • 11709

          #19
          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
          Sorry Barbs, I knew that you might take offense after I wrote that.
          I don't take offence at all .- I know a lot of people find that performance just too slow in the first movement . In principle , I agree but to my ears he makes it work .

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12260

            #20
            Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
            Nope. With Karajan x 2, Sinopoli, Maderna, Gergiev, Sanderling, Masur, Salonen, Tennstedt, Judd and Haitink on the shelves (and possibly more lurking), I have no need of Dudamel. The hype is hype.
            I'm with EotS on this. I have a good many more versions of the 9th than listed here and as things stand at present I would not expect Dudamel to be up to joining such company.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • amateur51

              #21
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              I'm with EotS on this. I have a good many more versions of the 9th than listed here and as things stand at present I would not expect Dudamel to be up to joining such company.
              What a shame

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              • Mr Pee
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                I'm with EotS on this. I have a good many more versions of the 9th than listed here and as things stand at present I would not expect Dudamel to be up to joining such company.
                Neither would I. The hype will die down eventually.
                Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                Mark Twain.

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                • Mahler's3rd

                  #23
                  Hi I've ordered the New Mahler 9 with The Los Angeles Philharmonic/Dudamel. I'll let you know when I get the chance to play it. I've got 5 other versions: Bruno Maderna/BBC Symphony Orchestra From 1971 On The BBC Legends Label, Berlin Philharmonic/Rattle, Kurt Sanderling's Recording with the BBC Phil also on the BBC Legends Label from 1982, Esa Pekka Salonen's with the Philharmonia and The Bruno Walter/Vienna Philharmonic, Recording From 1938 on The Dutton Label. In terms of the historical aspect The Bruno Walter is wonderful, and the Simon Rattle/Berlin Phil recording really is stunning. I've seen Dudamel conduct Mahler twice, The 2nd At The Proms with the Simon Bolivar Orchestra & With The Los Angeles Philharmonic at The Barbican doing the 9th, both we're very compelling, edge of the seat stuff, the 2nd @ The Proms in paticular was unforgetable, is he over hyped? who know's? wouldnt mind having a few quid in William Hill That The Berlin Phil are keeping tabs on him

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                  • Mr Pee
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3285

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Mahler's3rd View Post
                    is he over hyped? who know's? wouldnt mind having a few quid in William Hill That The Berlin Phil are keeping tabs on him
                    Blimey, and I thought the lottery had long odds.......I'll cover that bet, and raise you Andre Rieu.....
                    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                    Mark Twain.

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                    • Mahler's3rd

                      #25
                      Thanks for your offer of Andre Rieu, Mr Pee, I'll decline Dont know how long Dudamel is contracted to the LA Phil or Simon Bolivar for but thought it a decent shout, given he's the "Up & Coming, New Kid On The Block" as it we're, the other name I would have thrown in "each way" would have been Christian Thielmann. Think Daniel Barenboim would be No1 choice but by the time Simon Rattle goes, he's going to be getting on

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                      • Barbirollians
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11709

                        #26
                        Anyone heard this yet ? Mahler's 3rd what's your verdict ?

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                        • Beef Oven

                          #27
                          Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                          Nope. With Karajan x 2, Sinopoli, Maderna, Gergiev, Sanderling, Masur, Salonen, Tennstedt, Judd and Haitink on the shelves (and possibly more lurking), I have no need of Dudamel. The hype is hype.
                          Maderna

                          Great to see Bruno Maderna getting a mention as a conductor of this symphony.

                          The BBC recording I presume?

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                          • Petrushka
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12260

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
                            Maderna

                            Great to see Bruno Maderna getting a mention as a conductor of this symphony.

                            The BBC recording I presume?
                            Apart from a touch of audience noise the Maderna is fine. By the way, I recall listening on R3 to a Mahler 7 from the BBCSO and Maderna in 1972, which I think was the first time I heard the piece. Wonder if that is still lurking in the BBC archives?
                            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                            • Beef Oven

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                              Apart from a touch of audience noise the Maderna is fine. By the way, I recall listening on R3 to a Mahler 7 from the BBCSO and Maderna in 1972, which I think was the first time I heard the piece. Wonder if that is still lurking in the BBC archives?
                              Yes it is, I've heard mention of it, but a release is another story!!!

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                              • Mahler's3rd

                                #30
                                Hi Barbirollians, It's excellent, I've played it through 3 or 4 times now and it is superb. I saw the LAPO/Dudamel do the work at The Barbican a while ago, and that was brilliant. It will be interesting to see how Dudamel tackles the other Mahler Symphonies having also done the 5th with the Simon Bolivar. If I we're taking just one of the new recordings of Mahler 9away with me however I think the Berlin Philharmonic/Simon Rattle would just edge it.

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