Bach's St John Passion - any recommendations?

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  • holyphool

    #31
    Releasing soon a new performance from JEG, the Monteverdi's and soloists Mark Padmore (Evangelist), Hanno Müller-Brachmann (Jesus), Peter Harvey (Pilatus), Joanna Lunn & Katharine Fuge (sopranos), Bernarda Fink (alto), recorded in Königslutter in 2003. It is sure to be an improvement of the rather dull, and emotionally bereft recording he did for Archive. Let's hope. Am sure CD Review will include it.

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    • HARRIET HAVARD

      #32
      Originally posted by Mark Sealey View Post
      Higginbottom on Naxos 8557296-97
      Yes, I also have this recording. Excellent.

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      • verismissimo
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        • Nov 2010
        • 2957

        #33
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        ... even though it makes me a laughing stock with the establishment...

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        • verismissimo
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          • Nov 2010
          • 2957

          #34
          Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
          I'm delighted to hear this - the Parrott / Taverner is indeed excellent. I hope you and your friend have many happy years enjoying this glorious performance of a great work.
          Seconded.

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #35
            This year, as part of an increase in my interest in earlier music, I bought this JEG/Monteverdi/DG Archiv.

            I think it's absolutely glorious. Available for £8.00 incl P&P on Amazon marketplace, 2nd hand, very good copy.


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            • teamsaint
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              • Nov 2010
              • 25202

              #36
              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              This year, as part of an increase in my interest in earlier music, I bought this JEG/Monteverdi/DG Archiv.

              I think it's absolutely glorious. Available for £8.00 incl P&P on Amazon marketplace, 2nd hand, very good copy.


              so not " dull and emotionally bereft" then?

              Interesting.I shall dig out my copy and have a another listen with these opinions in mind.

              Perhaps the church in Tooting is unhelpful? though its not like JEG to record in places he doesn't fancy.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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              • Nick Armstrong
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                • Nov 2010
                • 26524

                #37
                Originally posted by holyphool View Post
                Releasing soon a new performance from JEG, the Monteverdi's and soloists Mark Padmore (Evangelist), Hanno Müller-Brachmann (Jesus), Peter Harvey (Pilatus), Joanna Lunn & Katharine Fuge (sopranos), Bernarda Fink (alto), recorded in Königslutter in 2003. It is sure to be an improvement of the rather dull, and emotionally bereft recording he did for Archive. Let's hope. Am sure CD Review will include it.
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                This year, as part of an increase in my interest in earlier music, I bought this JEG/Monteverdi/DG Archiv.
                I think it's absolutely glorious.
                Interesting, this. I also bought the Archiv JEG when it was released but got rid of it quite soon after (I suspect back to HMV with the receipt) - I found it, iirc, hard-driven, theatrical and lurid rather than spiritual... and - well - I wouldn't dissent from holyphool's description 'emotionally bereft'.

                Glad you like it though, Beefy - it just doesn't deliver what I'm after from this work.

                That said, I'm not sure I've ever heard a recording that ticks the boxes for me in this piece, so news of the new JEG is intriguing (given that I like JEG's more recent work with the Cantatas).

                And welcome, holyphool. Keep 'em coming
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25202

                  #38
                  I wonder if anybody can help me identify an old tape i have.
                  I is extracts from the St John, along with Cantata BWV 93, and was available at least 20 years ago.
                  not sure if this is the whole CD or not, but I guess it may have been a whole single CD.

                  Cheers.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Interesting, this. I also bought the Archiv JEG when it was released but got rid of it quite soon after (I suspect back to HMV with the receipt) - I found it, iirc, hard-driven, theatrical and lurid rather than spiritual... and - well - I wouldn't dissent from holyphool's description 'emotionally bereft'.

                    Glad you like it though, Beefy
                    Subtle as a friggin' sledgehammer.

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                    • teamsaint
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 25202

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      Subtle as a friggin' sledgehammer.
                      Beefy, he is a lawyer.

                      It was never going to be tea and sticky buns.

                      Spinning it now , for a definitive judgement....
                      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                      • Beef Oven!
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                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #41
                        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                        so not " dull and emotionally bereft" then?

                        Interesting.I shall dig out my copy and have a another listen with these opinions in mind.

                        Perhaps the church in Tooting is unhelpful? though its not like JEG to record in places he doesn't fancy.
                        Well, it's certainly not dull. As an agnostic (Mon-Fri)/Antitheist (Weekends), I found it pretty emotionally charged.

                        As for hard-driven, well I like my early music 'in-me-face'. One of the things that put me off early music for years was that powdered wig, beauty-spot, unmanly clobber vibe. This recording rocks!

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                        • vinteuil
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12798

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Subtle as a friggin' sledgehammer.

                          ... yep, John-Eliot's Bach often strikes me thusly.

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post

                          As for hard-driven, well I like my early music 'in-me-face'. .... This recording rocks!
                          ... well, perhaps "subtle" is not what Beef is looking for here...




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                          Last edited by vinteuil; 24-10-14, 16:36.

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                          • vinteuil
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 12798

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post


                            And welcome, holyphool. Keep 'em coming
                            ... ah well, only three years late

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                            • Beef Oven!
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                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #44
                              Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                              ... well, perhaps "subtle" is not what Beef is looking for here...

                              It's only rock n roll, but I like it.

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                              • hedgehog

                                #45
                                In 2012 I was trying to decide on a version for my father. It came down to The Parrot or the then fairly new 2nd recording by JEG - I do recommend listening to it!

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