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  • Roehre

    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
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    4. Alfred Brendel/ South West Germany Radio Symphony/ Gielen – Schönberg, Piano Concerto (opus 42)
    ....
    This is Brendel's first recording of the Schönberg concerto.
    THE Brendel recording is on DGG with Bavarian RSO/Kubelik (coupled with Zvi Zeitlin in the violin concerto op.36)

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26536

      Originally posted by Roehre View Post
      This is Brendel's first recording of the Schönberg concerto.
      THE Brendel recording is on DGG with Bavarian RSO/Kubelik (coupled with Zvi Zeitlin in the violin concerto op.36)
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • verismissimo
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2957

        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        Who fancies a BaL type natter about the Schoenberg PC ?
        Sounds an excellent idea, ts. Care to start a thread on Our Summer BAL? Last of the summer, possibly.

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        • HighlandDougie
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3091

          Originally posted by Roehre View Post
          This is Brendel's first recording of the Schönberg concerto.
          THE Brendel recording is on DGG with Bavarian RSO/Kubelik (coupled with Zvi Zeitlin in the violin concerto op.36)
          There are two Brendel/Südwestfunk/Gielen recordings: 1957 (!) on Vox and 1998/9 on Philips. In my very unhumble opinion - and pace Roehre , the latter of the two is rather better than Brendel and Kubelik (and is certainly better recorded).

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          • Roehre

            Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
            There are two Brendel/Südwestfunk/Gielen recordings: 1957 (!) on Vox and 1998/9 on Philips. In my very unhumble opinion - and pace Roehre , the latter of the two is rather better than Brendel and Kubelik (and is certainly better recorded).
            The latter recording escaped my attention for some reason- hence no opinion about it (yet )

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Originally posted by Caliban View Post

              The Schoenberg concerto was among Clive Dunn's 8 discs on Desert Island Discs
              Interesting parallel, 'Grandad' wasn't one of Schoenberg's selections, on the same programme. Two Little Boys was, but he couldn't have known.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                Interesting parallel, 'Grandad' wasn't one of Schoenberg's selections, on the same programme. Two Little Boys was, but he couldn't have known.


                ... oh, lor' - my ribs hurt.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                  There are two Brendel/Südwestfunk/Gielen recordings: 1957 (!) on Vox and 1998/9 on Philips. In my very unhumble opinion - and pace Roehre , the latter of the two is rather better than Brendel and Kubelik (and is certainly better recorded).
                  Thanks for mentioning the later Gielen recording. I note it is available on QOBUZ, so will listen to the mp3 offering there.

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26536

                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Did you hear the Matsuev/Gergiev Stravinsky extract?
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Yes - and I recognised neither the work nor the composer (I was thinking perhaps somebody like Weill or Krenek in the '20s ) An interesting mixture of fascination and irritation in my response to the Music. (Can't imagine how playing that work in close proximity to the Rach #3rd Symph will feel!)
                    Interesting public exchange about it on t'witter:






                    I like the phrase "thuggishly bad"...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26536

                      Only caught part of CD Review this morning, the rest will be listened to. But of the Perlman recordings illustrated, the one that really appealed to me was the Perlman/Chicago/Barenboim Elgar Violin Concerto. Delightful change to hear non-English virtuosity and warmth in the solo part...

                      Anyone a fan of this performance?
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Only caught part of CD Review this morning, the rest will be listened to. But of the Perlman recordings illustrated, the one that really appealed to me was the Perlman/Chicago/Barenboim Elgar Violin Concerto. Delightful change to hear non-English virtuosity and warmth in the solo part...

                        Anyone a fan of this performance?
                        Kreisler, Menuhin, Heifetz, Chung, Zuckerman, Zehetmair, Hahn, Ehnes, Kang, Shaham, and Kennedy (he's from another planet) as well as Perlman ... non-English virtuosity and warmth is quite familiar in this work.

                        I heard the Perlman when it was first issued on CD - and found it then lacking in "warmth" (and the soloist too far forward in the balance); I much preferred Zuckerman's recording with Barenboim. That said, it's thirty years ago, so maybe it's time to seek it out to see if it will let me have another chance ...
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Petrushka
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 12251

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          Only caught part of CD Review this morning, the rest will be listened to. But of the Perlman recordings illustrated, the one that really appealed to me was the Perlman/Chicago/Barenboim Elgar Violin Concerto. Delightful change to hear non-English virtuosity and warmth in the solo part...

                          Anyone a fan of this performance?
                          Yes, I certainly am a fan! I bought the LP when it first came out in 1982 and loved it then and love it now. The forward placing of Perlman doesn't bother me at all, indeed, I see it as a positive advantage in that it really brings out Elgar's wonderful writing for the violin in all its glory. This recording meant a great deal to me in those days and it would be one for that desert island.
                          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                          • BBMmk2
                            Late Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 20908

                            I'm not too sure if it worth buying all this fiddling?
                            Don’t cry for me
                            I go where music was born

                            J S Bach 1685-1750

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26536

                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              I'm not too sure if it worth buying all this fiddling?
                              Only you can really answer that question, Bbm!
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                Only you can really answer that question, Bbm!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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