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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26540

    Oooops

    Andrew McGregor ‏@andrewCDmcg 55 seconds ago
    Hah! Temporary studio issues...you just heard Vivaldi motet Filiae maestae Jerusalem from Philippe Jaroussky's new Vivaldi recital on Erato

    BBC Radio 3 ‏@BBCRadio3 1 minute ago
    Back-anno from the last piece wasn't transmitted - sorry!


    Thought me DAB was playing up...
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26540

      Where on earth do they get the photos of composers from?!

      Would anyone have recognised Schumann and Chopin from the pictures here?


      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • amateur51

        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        Where on earth do they get the photos of composers from?!

        Would anyone have recognised Schumann and Chopin from the pictures here?


        I think you'll find they're not photos Cali

        Mind you, I do agree that the pictures used are not what we're used to but then who knows?

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        • visualnickmos
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 3610

          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          Where on earth do they get the photos of composers from?!

          Would anyone have recognised Schumann and Chopin from the pictures here?


          It's the same bloke in both!

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          • Alison
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 6459

            im keeping a look out for Brahms ...

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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12255

              Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
              I think you'll find they're not photos Cali

              Mind you, I do agree that the pictures used are not what we're used to but then who knows?
              This recalls a memory of an old school teacher of mine who taught history. She used to berate us children for drawing some figure in our exercise books and calling them Queen Elizabeth 1 or Henry VIII or whatever when it plainly wasn't. In any case, isn't there a photograph in existence of Chopin in which he looks like he's suffering from a terrible cold? The pictures of Schumann all look much the same and nothing like the one above.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26540

                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                In any case, isn't there a photograph in existence of Chopin in which he looks like he's suffering from a terrible cold? The pictures of Schumann all look much the same and nothing like the one above.
                There are photos of both composers, looking nothing like the R3 images (thanks for the ahintonesque correction. ammy )

                This is the one of Chopin you mean Pet, I think, in 1849



                Actually a Google image search shoes both the R3 images to be etchings of each when relatively young, so a bit like using one of those images of Brahms looking about 12 which were discussed on the Forum a week or two ago...
                Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 19-10-14, 11:50.
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12255

                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                  There are photos of both composers, looking nothing like the R3 images (thanks for the ahintonesque correction. ammy )

                  This is the one of Chopin you mean Pet, I think, in 1849
                  Yes that's the one. He looks ill and worried. I wasn't sure if any of the images of Schumann were, in fact, photographs.
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26540

                    Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                    Yes that's the one. He looks ill and worried. I wasn't sure if any of the images of Schumann were, in fact, photographs.
                    Some are (or perhaps, more technically, daguerrotypes) - like this one taken the year after the one of Chopin:

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11705

                      Did anyone else hear the extract from the highly puffed Lang Lang/VPO/Harnoncourt -K453 and K 491 .

                      What a car crash - jabbing finger accents from Harnoncourt that sounded completely wrong , a recording that appeared to give absurd prominence to the woodwind and dull clumping heavy handed playing from Lang Lang .

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26540

                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        Did anyone else hear the extract from the highly puffed Lang Lang/VPO/Harnoncourt -K453 and K 491 .

                        What a car crash - jabbing finger accents from Harnoncourt that sounded completely wrong , a recording that appeared to give absurd prominence to the woodwind and dull clumping heavy handed playing from Lang Lang .
                        Yes I did, and I couldn't agree more; I alluded to it by way of an off-topic PS on the BaL thread, responding to visualnick:

                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        PS:
                        Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                        Slightly related to the thread (only slightly) I just heard Lang Lang murdering some Chopin on a French TV chat show. Reminded me of Mrs Mills, and that is not intended as an insult to the Grande Dame of the old Joanna, an entertainer who I actually remember as a kid, and quite liked!
                        He murdered some Mozart on this CD Review too. He really is a carbuncle on the rear end of music.
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Barbirollians
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11705

                          I found it hard to believe it was K453 - a lovely, sunny concerto to my ears - have had to get Perahia/ECO in the player to confirm it .

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                          • Lento
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 646

                            Love the "starling" finale of this work.

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26540

                              The 'programme' of CD Review tomorrow (22.11.14) is as attractive to my inclinations as last week's was dull.... Apart from the Purcell BAL, the line-up suits me down to the ground.

                              9.05 Choral music, Four Last Songs...
                              - BAL -
                              10.20 Rachmaninov Box Set
                              11.20 New Releases: French chamber and piano music
                              11.40 Disc of the Week: Gerontius (downside: Ms. Connolly Hope he concentrates on the tenor, and ignores the Sea Pictures filler )

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                              Random OT fact: I remember the conductor of the first CD in the first segment sleeping some years ago on the floor of my living room along with 3 or 4 other people after a party ... i.e. long into the following day. The place was like a hastily improvised morgue in a war-zone. But that's another story....
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • Alison
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6459

                                Enjoy Mr Caliban! Shame it isn't Harriet Smith reviewing the Rachmaninov to complete your pleasure ....

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