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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    I have just checked the 1st movement of the Concerto from the single disc version on QOBUZ. No fault apparent there, so either the amazon.co.uk customer reviewer was basing the review on the Presto download (it is referred to as track 11, with no mention of which disc), or the fault lies only in the Edition version of the disc and its related FLAC. I intend to email Presto re. the problem, pointing out that it does not occur in the single disc version, so they could replace the faulty file with that one.
    Good.

    I'll also email Presto along the same lines.

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      I've recently learned his his Allegro Barbaro, a very difficult piece and it requires stamina - it currently takes me 46 minutes to get through and I'm hoping to speed up.
      OMG Beefy!
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • EdgeleyRob
        Guest
        • Nov 2010
        • 12180

        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        I've recently learned his his Allegro Barbaro, a very difficult piece and it requires stamina - it currently takes me 46 minutes to get through and I'm hoping to speed up.

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26524

          Nice one, Rob!!
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              Love this! I am in Advent/Yuletide mode now!
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born

              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Richard Tarleton

                Some interesting discsa reviewed yesterday - I enjoyed this end of year review more than usual. I liked Elin Manahan Thomas's advicacy for the Music from the Hundred Years War and Percy Grainger folk songs. I was briefly tempted by the Danish String Quartet's Last Leaf, until Andrew dropped that it was an ECM CD - this rang alarm bells and I checked online, sure enough total playing time 48 minutes . How do ECM continue to get away with this? Why do Andrew & co. not use the platform of Record Review to call them out for this ridiculous short-changing of the customer, as if some moody black and white photography and cryptic sleeve notes in some way make up for it . I've been caught out before, and no more ECM CDs. Typical playing time of an early music plucker on ECM (Rolf Lisveland, Pablo Marquez) 48 minutes, Paul O'Dette on Harmonia Mundi never less than 70. It's only a bloke (or in this case 4 blokes) sitting on stools or chairs with a microphone.

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                • ChrisBennell
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 171

                  Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                  Some interesting discsa reviewed yesterday - I enjoyed this end of year review more than usual. I liked Elin Manahan Thomas's advicacy for the Music from the Hundred Years War and Percy Grainger folk songs. I was briefly tempted by the Danish String Quartet's Last Leaf, until Andrew dropped that it was an ECM CD - this rang alarm bells and I checked online, sure enough total playing time 48 minutes . How do ECM continue to get away with this? Why do Andrew & co. not use the platform of Record Review to call them out for this ridiculous short-changing of the customer, as if some moody black and white photography and cryptic sleeve notes in some way make up for it . I've been caught out before, and no more ECM CDs. Typical playing time of an early music plucker on ECM (Rolf Lisveland, Pablo Marquez) 48 minutes, Paul O'Dette on Harmonia Mundi never less than 70. It's only a bloke (or in this case 4 blokes) sitting on stools or chairs with a microphone.
                  Agreed there was some interesting stuff on yesterday. I was also looking at the Danish String Quartet CD. and I noted it is available for download from Presto Classical. You don't save much though (14p I think!) - but you can select which tracks most interested in!

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3225

                    Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
                    Some interesting discsa reviewed yesterday - I enjoyed this end of year review more than usual. I liked Elin Manahan Thomas's advicacy for the Music from the Hundred Years War and Percy Grainger folk songs. I was briefly tempted by the Danish String Quartet's Last Leaf, until Andrew dropped that it was an ECM CD - this rang alarm bells and I checked online, sure enough total playing time 48 minutes . How do ECM continue to get away with this? Why do Andrew & co. not use the platform of Record Review to call them out for this ridiculous short-changing of the customer, as if some moody black and white photography and cryptic sleeve notes in some way make up for it . I've been caught out before, and no more ECM CDs. Typical playing time of an early music plucker on ECM (Rolf Lisveland, Pablo Marquez) 48 minutes, Paul O'Dette on Harmonia Mundi never less than 70. It's only a bloke (or in this case 4 blokes) sitting on stools or chairs with a microphone.
                    You might want to reconsider a total ban on ECM, RT; pulled at random from my shelves:

                    Ysaye Solo sonatas; Zehetmair (65:56)
                    Schumann Vn Sons: Widmann, Varjon (72:02)
                    Officium: Hilliard Ensemble, Garbarek (77:41)

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                    • Cockney Sparrow
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 2284

                      The ECM label isn't carried by the eClassical download site - where recordings are priced by the time length of the tracks .......
                      A previous recording of the Quartet's (Wood Works - which I have) is on the Da Capo Label and can be had there for $8.93
                      Download Classical Music in lossless High Resolution FLAC & MP3 formats, and learn about Classical Music. Refund Policy, No DRM protection and pricing is per second.

                      (Last Leaf - the album is on Google Play Music (so quite probably Spotify too....)

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                      • Richard Tarleton

                        Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                        You might want to reconsider a total ban on ECM, RT; pulled at random from my shelves:
                        Well I'll certainly check, Sir V - not something I'd normally do, but twice or thrice bitten, for the simplest instrumental CD - why do they do it? My Hilliard Gesualdo Tenebrae is 76 and 46, I suppose you wouldn't want a filler after that...

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                        • Thropplenoggin
                          Full Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 1587

                          Nice to hear Stephen Johnson on RR this Saturday, especially with a clutch of Mahler discs. He was especially impressed by François-Xavier Roth's Mahler 5 on Harmonia Mundi, and Adam Fischer's new recording of Mahler 1. I find Roth to be a fascinating conductor - his Strauss recordings reveal a very thoughtful musical intelligence at work. SJ is due to look at Mahler 7 in a BaL in March, which should make for interesting listening. I like how he talks about music (as opposed to the babbling-with-excessive-hyperbole of Tom Service). I wonder if we could petition to replace The Listening Service with SJ's Discovering Music. Just a thought.
                          Last edited by Thropplenoggin; 14-01-18, 14:48.
                          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7740

                            I've always thought of Stephen Johnson to be a very fine broadcaster. It's a pity he's so under-used by the BBC although he seems to have his finger in a few pies so perhaps he's not always available.

                            Yes, I'm really looking forward to his Mahler 7 BaL - always my favourite Mahler Symphony!

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26524

                              Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                              Nice to hear Stephen Johnson on RR this Saturday, especially with a clutch of Mahler discs. He was especially impressed by François-Xavier Roth's Mahler 5 on Harmonia Mundi, and Adam Fischer's new recording of Mahler 1. I find Roth to be a fascinating conductor - his Strauss recordings reveal a very thoughtful musical intelligence at work. SJ is due to look at Mahler 7 in a BaL in March, which should make for interesting listening. I like how he talks about music (as opposed to the babbling-with-excessive-hyperbole of Tom Service). I wonder if we could petition to replace The Listening Service with SJ's Discovering Music. Just a thought.
                              Agreed on all points!

                              I also like the way SJ cut through the AMcG mannerism of asking a question then linking with the word 'because' to a long explanation of his own views, which often seriously erodes the time available to the contributor to speak. A couple of times SJ responded immediately to the question, quite rightly speaking over AMcG's 'because....' - which led to a much more dynamic and interesting discussion.
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • Thropplenoggin
                                Full Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1587

                                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                                Agreed on all points!

                                I also like the way SJ cut through the AMcG mannerism of asking a question then linking with the word 'because' to a long explanation of his own views, which often seriously erodes the time available to the contributor to speak. A couple of times SJ responded immediately to the question, quite rightly speaking over AMcG's 'because....' - which led to a much more dynamic and interesting discussion.
                                The 'cross-talk' in AMcG's two-fer sections always makes me cringe. If you invite a guest on, surely it's to hear them speak. It's not as if AMcG doesn't have ample time to air his own views in the show.
                                It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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