Interesting - so any suggestions? Hagen + Caussé? Takacs + Power? Currently listening to the Belcea recording on iTunes Music, not bad...
Record Review: non-BaL discs reviewed, etc.
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostInteresting - so any suggestions? Hagen + Caussé? Takacs + Power? Currently listening to the Belcea recording on iTunes Music, not bad...[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostI wouldn't mind hearing Forumistas' opinions/recommendations."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostRelevant posts copied to existing specific thread: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...tring-Quintets[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Not wishing to overstate it, but the René Leibowitz Beethoven Symphonies covered on today's programme are proving a revelation to me.
I already had one Chesky issue on my shelf, which I saw the other day and couldn't recall for the life of me why I had it.
Now I know - and am listening to others via iTunes Music.
WHAT PERFORMANCES!!
I have to say that these 1961 recordings are far more up my street than the roughly contemporary (in fact a year or two earlier) Cluytens/Berlin recordings - similarly overlooked by the 'mainstream' perhaps, but raved about by fans... on the basis of which I acquired the set. It's never 'clicked' with me, I'm afraid - expecting a revelation, I was and remain disappointed by the Cluytens.
But the opposite is true of these Leibowitz recordings - RPO on prime form (just a month or so after Beecham's death) and knockout sound quality from ... Walthamstow Town Hall.
And I love the pulse, the inflections... (I could go on. But I'll just listen)."...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Oh, yes - the Leibowitz set (via the Czessky remasterings) are prized chez moi, too: near the very top of my favourite versions. I'm a little puzzled by the reviewer's comment that "not many repeats are observed" as in my memory, the Expo repeats were played??? (Just shows I need to hear them again - been distracted by Monteux and Chailly recently.) Richard Lewis is superb, but Ludwig Weber's opening recitative doesn't show him in best voice
I won't be buying the Harnoncourt CD - for all the superb instrumental playing (the microphone caught the piccolo exceptionally well - one of the few disappointments of the magnificent Krivine cycle).[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View PostOh, yes - the Leibowitz set (via the Czessky remasterings) are prized chez moi, too: near the very top of my favourite versions. I'm a little puzzled by the reviewer's comment that "not many repeats are observed" as in my memory, the Expo repeats were played??? (Just shows I need to hear them again - been distracted by Monteux and Chailly recently.) Richard Lewis is superb, but Ludwig Weber's opening recitative doesn't show him in best voice
I won't be buying the Harnoncourt CD - for all the superb instrumental playing (the microphone caught the piccolo exceptionally well - one of the few disappointments of the magnificent Krivine cycle).
I didn't hear RR today, but I hope whoever reissued these hasn't ruined the sound...
I wouldn't miss the Harnoncourt 4&5 - when time allows - and I wouldn't listen to any reviewers' advice on it either. I did think RO was very fair though, and respectful to Harnoncourt's iconoclasm (mind you, if someone respects your iconoclasm, then...) in his 2/2016 Gramophone review (of the 5th):
"You may thrill to the effect, though as Dr,Johnson warned, "it has long been found that specious emendations do not equally strike all minds with conviction."
That said, I'm rather relieved to hear Harnoncourt going out with a bang rather than a whimper. He is too courageous a musician to have done anything else."
Just hope that I can cope with the familiarity problem when I settle down to hear them. Only Harnoncourt could have persuaded me to.Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 06-02-16, 17:27.
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostThe reviewer got it right, ferns - I know for sure that Leibowitz takes the repeat in No.1, but not in 2,3, or 4 (would have to check the others...).
This means that the intro/expo in 2 and 4 take over half the movement![FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post- yes, checked the timings and, sadly, my memory was correcting his error.
Erm ... Not sure what you mean here, jayne: in #2, the Expo takes just over two minutes of a nine-and-a-half minute Movement; if the Expo repeat had been observed, it would have been just over four minutes of an eleven-and-three-quarter minute movement (and, at that length, it would have been in better proportion to the ten-and-a-half minute Second Movement).
Anyway, repeats observed in 5,6 and 8, but not in 7. So 4/4, honours even..... (and the reviewer should have been more precise, perhaps....)
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Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
.....I wouldn't miss the Harnoncourt 4&5 - when time allows - and I wouldn't listen to any reviewers' advice on it either. I did think RO was very fair though, and respectful to Harnoncourt's iconoclasm (mind you, if someone respects your iconoclasm, then...) in his 2/2016 Gramophone review (of the 5th):
"You may thrill to the effect, though as Dr,Johnson warned, "it has long been found that specious emendations do not equally strike all minds with conviction."
That said, I'm rather relieved to hear Harnoncourt going out with a bang rather than a whimper. He is too courageous a musician to have done anything else."
Just hope that I can cope with the familiarity problem when I settle down to hear them. Only Harnoncourt could have persuaded me to.
On hearing how he ends the 5th Symphony this time, I just got the giggles! Everybody should hear it!
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostNot wishing to overstate it, but the René Leibowitz Beethoven Symphonies covered on today's programme are proving a revelation to me. I already had one Chesky issue on my shelf, which I saw the other day and couldn't recall for the life of me why I had it....
WHAT PERFORMANCES!!
.......But the opposite is true of these Leibowitz recordings - RPO on prime form (just a month or so after Beecham's death) and knockout sound quality from ... Walthamstow Town Hall......And I love the pulse, the inflections... (I could go on. But I'll just listen).
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