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  • silvestrione
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1708

    Curious. If I did not know the pianist, I think, after listening to this programme, I would have thought, 'not for me'.

    But I am a Richter enthusiast! My shelves are littered with his discs.

    I would not go to Richter for Bach, except for the 'live' Bk 1 Well-Tempered, once on Revelation and now reissued on Melodiya.
    I would not go to Richter for Mozart sonatas either!
    If you want Richter in Liszt, you wouldn't, I hope, want anything as ghastly as that Scherzo they played. Go for the Sonata (several great live versions), or of course Feux Follets in one of the 1950s live versions, spell-binding.
    There are probably hundreds of live Richter recordings in much better sound than those in the Sony box from Carnegie. Explore BBC Legends (oh, nla?), Doremi, Parnassus, Music and Arts, or the Richter in Hungary set.
    Having said that, the Sony Carnegie are of immense historical interest, as KH brought out. I have long loved the studio Beethoven Sonata Op 26 with the funeral march, which comes across from Richter (and from Pollini, Michelangeli, and Gould) as a great work. The live recital version is a fascinating comparison! More 'give', more expression and poetry, or even more, I should say.
    I mcuh prefer Richter live to Richter studio. I won't be buying the big box, but it does contain some of his greatest recordings, including in the studio, e.g. the Rachmaninov Preludes group from DG in late 50s, the DG Schumann from the same time, and the Beethoven 'Cello sonatas with Rostropovitch. And, live, the most successful of his 'slow' Schubert, in my view, the C Major Sonata, unfinished movements and all, ending in mid air.
    The late Beethoven sonatas come off better in other recordings, such as in the Brilliant Classics Sonata box, or in Leipzig.
    KH is not a Richter aficionado, or he would never say Debussy is not a composer associated with him. He is a justly admired exponent (as Stephen Plasitow has testified over the years).
    Especially fine versions of most of the Preludes on BBC Legends, and 'Estampes' is wonderfully played live on an early DG recording, in the big box but available elsewhere.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26536

      Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
      I would not go to Richter for Bach, except for the 'live' Bk 1 Well-Tempered, once on Revelation and now reissued on Melodiya.
      I would not go to Richter for Mozart sonatas either!
      If you want Richter in Liszt, you wouldn't, I hope, want anything as ghastly as that Scherzo they played.
      I would agree most particularly about all three on the basis of the evidence in the CD Review segment. I had to fast-forward through the Liszt, it was unbearable - but I thought that might have just been me, what with me weakness an' all
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • verismissimo
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2957

        Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
        Curious...
        Wonderful, illuminating post, thanks, silvy.

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        • MickyD
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 4769

          I still deeply regret not having gone to one of Richter's last, spur of the moment concerts given here in a small chapel in Arles.

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26536

            I very much liked what we heard of Petrenko's Elgar 1 with the RLPO this morning .... anyone heard the whole thing?

            Ditto the Julian Lloyd-Webber directed Introduction & Allegro and Sospiri. Sounded like The Real Thing to me....
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26536

              Real magic in the 'record of the week' - the Grieg performance that's now featured two weeks in succession on CDR is truly a bit special - not one of my favourite pieces, but couldn't take my ears off this!



              Was anyone at the Barbican for the performance? Here's a review of the concert: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/m...w-radiant.html

              Also: I was very interested to hear the new McCreesh 'L'Allegro, &c.' on CDR this morning: spirited orchestral playing, an astounding treble soloist but the two main adult soloists not as convincing to my ears as they appeared to be to the presenters e.g. in 'As Steals the Morn'.

              Terribly difficult to rival the sublime Padmore/Crowe duo though, on the HM CD

              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • vinteuil
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12832

                ... the new Rameau [Castor & Pollux] sounded good ; I shall be getting it

                As one of the French reviewers put it - "Tous les raméliens passionnés se doivent d'acquérir séance tenante cette ultime mouture d'une apothéose de l'amour fraternel."



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                • Flosshilde
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7988

                  Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                  Also: I was very interested to hear the new McCreesh 'L'Allegro, &c.' on CDR this morning: spirited orchestral playing, an astounding treble soloist but the two main adult soloists not as convincing to my ears as they appeared to be to the presenters e.g. in 'As Steals the Morn'.

                  Terribly difficult to rival the sublime Padmore/Crowe duo though, on the HM CD

                  Although presumably that recording isn't of the full l'Allegro ..., but just has arias from it?

                  I thought the boy treble was exceptional; his voice sounded quite mature, in that it seemed to have a depth and richness that one doesn't normally associate with boy trebles. I wonder if he might grow up to be a counter-tenor, if he continues singing? It's a work I haven't got, so I might be 'investing' (as they say) in this recording (the Milton poems were on my A Level English syllabus, many years ago).

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                    I thought the boy treble was exceptional; his voice sounded quite mature, in that it seemed to have a depth and richness that one doesn't normally associate with boy trebles.
                    - women singing parts originally written for boys are occasionally described as having "boy-like" voices, but he reversed this trend!

                    (And, like Cali, I greatly enjoyed the Grieg Pno Conc; it's been many, many years since I last listened to the work - this recording reminded me why I fell in love with the work as a teenager.)
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26536

                      Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
                      ... the new Rameau [Castor & Pollux] sounded good ; I shall be getting it

                      As one of the French reviewers put it - "Tous les raméliens passionnés se doivent d'acquérir séance tenante cette ultime mouture d'une apothéose de l'amour fraternel."



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                      http://www.amazon.fr/dp/B00TGKEF42
                      Haven't yet heard that earlier part of CD Review, look forward to a listen tomorrow

                      Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                      Although presumably that recording isn't of the full l'Allegro ..., but just has arias from it?
                      Indeed, only that one; the rest are arias from Samson, Tamerlano &c.


                      Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                      I thought the boy treble was exceptional; his voice sounded quite mature, in that it seemed to have a depth and richness that one doesn't normally associate with boy trebles. I wonder if he might grow up to be a counter-tenor, if he continues singing?
                      Judging by his twitter page, and in particular the photo of a letter from his singing teacher (post dated 19 May), he's a promising tenor these days:

                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • MickyD
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 4769

                        I still have a fondness for the Gardiner recording of 'L'Allegro'...he seems to get the tempo just right for 'As steals the Morn'...soloists Patrizia Kwella and Maldwyn Davies.

                        Oh dear, ANOTHER recording of "Castor et Pollux" which beckons - I already have four!! And the old Charles Farncombe recording is probably my favourite.

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                        • Flosshilde
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 7988

                          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                          [COLOR="#0000FF"]Judging by his twitter page, and in particular the photo of a letter from his singing teacher (post dated 19 May), he's a promising tenor these days:

                          https://twitter.com/laurence_kilsby
                          Interesting - according to the Times review it was his last recording before his voice changed, hence, presumably, the maturity. He, (& McCreish) is lucky the change didn't happen in the course of the recording sessions

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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26536

                            Some ear-opening choices in the 'contemporary' segment of today's programme. I enjoyed the Partch extract (Daphne of the Dunes) especially.
                            Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 27-06-15, 13:54. Reason: Seeking to cover my embarrassment - unnsuccessfully given teamsaint's quote...
                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25209

                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              Some ear-opening choices in the 'contemporary' segment of today's programme. I enjoyed the Partsch extract (Daphne of the Dunes) especially.
                              As Partch now has official mod approval, a general thread of his own is in order I think.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26536

                                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                                As Partch now has official mod approval, a general thread of his own is in order I think.


                                (Though perhaps it should await said mod actually being able to spell the bloke's name )
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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