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  • amateur51

    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    I think that is a very good point - with the CBSO was he in the position of developing the orchestra and its repertoire - very much loved by his orchestra and audiences. The CBSO Mahler 2 is very interesting and recently seems to have come in for quite a bit of stick on these boards. I remember first hearing it - previously my choices were CSO Abbado and NYPO Walter - and thinking this is different. The singing of Arleen Auger and Janet Baker is spot on but his researches into the interpretation eg with Berthold Goldschmidt are what make it a unique interpretation. I am not an analytical expert in the way that many boarders are but could the difference between the CBSO and BPO recordings be in the nature of the orchestras he inherited. With the BPO a well-honed machine that has been turning out the core European repertoire for years has Rattle added much to interpretation of these - possibly not - but he has had rave reviews for his 'full' Bruckner 9 - the finale presumably new to the orchestra. There is much to like in his Schubert 9 and Heldenleben - standard BPO fare - but for me one of the disappointments is his Borodin 2, which somehow does not come alive in the way it should. After Berlin I hope he will take on an orchestra in need of rebuilding and developing in the way he worked with the CBSO.
    I think your analysis, expert or not, is interesting and I agree with all of it

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22115

      Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
      I think your analysis, expert or not, is interesting and I agree with all of it
      Thank you ams - I should have said 'After Berlin I hope he will take on a British orchestra in need of rebuilding and developing in the way he worked with the CBSO.'

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      • amateur51

        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        Thank you ams - I should have said 'After Berlin I hope he will take on a British orchestra in need of rebuilding and developing in the way he worked with the CBSO.'
        Purely selfishly, I agree with that too. As Nelsons is going to Boston after CBSO, there'd be a vacancy for Rattle to fill there.

        But does he want an American orchestra? Or does he want an opera house? So much will depend on his children and his marriage, I imagine and so the hope & wishes of two (relatively) old blokes don't amount to a hill o' beans

        Or might he take on the El Sistema movement in UK (pace MrGG), taking it to the next level? Enough already!
        Last edited by Guest; 03-06-13, 10:04. Reason: El Sistema

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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11671

          I should love to see him at the LSO . Somehow I think it would work .

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          • verismissimo
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2957

            Rattle to the Met?

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            • Thropplenoggin
              Full Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 1587

              Kicking off tomorrow's show:

              WAGNER: Die Meistersinger von Nurnberg – Prelude; Siegfried – Idyll; Gotterdammerung - Dawn and Siegfried's Rhine Journey; Gotterdammerung - Siegfried's Funeral March; Gotterdammerung - Immolation scene
              Petra Lang (soprano), Budapest Festival Orchestra, Ivan Fischer (conductor)
              CHANNEL CCSSA32713 (Hybrid SACD)


              Fischer's Mahler with the Budapest Festival Orchestra has often been revelatory (and always stunningly recorded) and this Wagner disc has already scored some good reviews in the broadsheets. A conductor who always brings something new out of a work. Who knows - perhaps the Berlin Phil. will come knocking?
              It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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              • amateur51

                On Saturday 15 June 2013 at 10.30 Mark Padmore talks to Andrew about Decca's reissue of recordings of Benjamin Britten - presumably this means the £180 box of everything



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                • Thropplenoggin
                  Full Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1587

                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  On Saturday 15 June 2013 at 10.30 Mark Padmore talks to Andrew about Decca's reissue of recordings of Benjamin Britten - presumably this means the £180 box of everything



                  start saving
                  Expect McG to say "a lovely sense of line" at some point during proceedings.
                  It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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                  • Sir Velo
                    Full Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 3225

                    Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                    Expect McG to say "a lovely sense of line" at some point during proceedings.

                    My money's on "traversal".

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                    • amateur51

                      So that's two saucers of milk then? ....

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                      • Alison
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6455

                        Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                        Expect McG to say "a lovely sense of line" at some point during proceedings.
                        Please be as kind to A McG as you expected me to be to Stephen Johnson.

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                        • Sir Velo
                          Full Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3225

                          Could have been forgiven for thinking I had stumbled into an edition of Saturday Morning Kitchen yesterday as AMG's guest, Anna Picard, brought out a whole stockpot of gastronomic metaphors: pieces were described as being like "limes" (no, I've no idea either!) or "toffee flavoured" string writing (your guess is as good....etc). Still the music sounded intriguing.

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                          • Sir Velo
                            Full Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 3225

                            I see that, according to the CD Review Newsletter, Harriet Smith will be reviewing a selection of recent violin sonatas and cantatas (sic) this morning. I must confess that the combination of solo violin and cantata is a new one to me.

                            For those of us unable to listen live, I hope that the iplayer version will be available this week. I particularly regret missing the programme two weeks' ago in which one had the chance to "roadtest" Christian Blackshaw's Mozart against more authentic fortepianists. Maybe there is a listener out there who can advise how Mahan Estafani compared the respective performances?

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26523

                              Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                              I particularly regret missing the programme two weeks' ago in which one had the chance to "roadtest" Christian Blackshaw's Mozart against more authentic fortepianists. Maybe there is a listener out there who can advise how Mahan Estafani compared the respective performances?
                              Sir V, peer in your inbox in a few moments...
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • doversoul1
                                Ex Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7132

                                Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                                I see that, according to the CD Review Newsletter, Harriet Smith will be reviewing a selection of recent violin sonatas and cantatas (sic) this morning. I must confess that the combination of solo violin and cantata is a new one to me.
                                Could it possibly be a simple typo?
                                STRAVINSKY: Violin Concerto in D
                                PROKOFIEV: Violin Concerto No. 2 in G minor Op. 63
                                Patricia Kopatchinskaja (violin), London Philharmonic Orchestra, Vladimir Jurowski (conductor)
                                NAIVE V5352 (CD)

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