Tchaikovsky 4 & 5 LPO/Jurowski

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  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12252

    #16
    Originally posted by Alison View Post
    An earlier thread on this set from last September

    http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...-Tchaikovsky-4
    Oops, sorry sbout duplicate thread. I'm perfectly happy for some kind Host to move this one to the end of that one.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • akiralx
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      • Oct 2011
      • 427

      #17
      Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
      In SACD I do like Pletnev (His Winter Dreams is really outstanding, finally displacing Karajan in my collection).
      I have that SACD, very idiosyncratic though isn't it? The slow introduction to (i) seems to go on forever. I'm not sure I'll buy any more of that cycle - Kitajenko's is getting rave reviews on SACD.net.

      Karajan is pretty good, I have enjoyed that for many years, more straightforward though. Tilson Thomas on DG is still my favourite.

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
        • 6459

        #18
        Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
        Oops, sorry sbout duplicate thread. I'm perfectly happy for some kind Host to move this one to the end of that one.
        Not necessary ! My thread only covered the fourth anyway

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        • Petrushka
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 12252

          #19
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          Not necessary ! My thread only covered the fourth anyway
          "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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          • Nick Armstrong
            Host
            • Nov 2010
            • 26538

            #20
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Not necessary ! My thread only covered the fourth anyway
            Caliban returns to his cave...


            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • Barbirollians
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              • Nov 2010
              • 11688

              #21
              Originally posted by salymap View Post
              I really must catch up with the Tchaikovsky symphonies. I heard them a lot live but never bothered with recordings until a recent birthday, when family gave me 1-3 with the Berlin Phil/HvK and 4-6 with Pappano and St Cecilia orchestra. I still haven't heard them and have no idea how they are 'rated'.
              I like Karajan's 1-3 very much and Pappano's last three received good reviews .

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12252

                #22
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                Caliban returns to his cave...


                We don't want to work you too hard!
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • richardfinegold
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7666

                  #23
                  Earlier I had referenced a Monteux / Boston recording. I had forgotten that High Resolution aficianados can also obtain a Monteux/Vienna PO concert recording in HD. I have this recording, which contains a complete concert, on DVD-A, but HDTracks lists the same recording in 96/24. There is a live performance of the 5th, similar to the Boston reading but with the extra energy that performing live offers; a spirited Romeo; and a very nice First Piano Concerto with John Ogdon.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #24
                    I think its high time that Mariss Jansons should record these symphonies and the 6th again?
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • Hornspieler
                      Late Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 1847

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                      I think its high time that Mariss Jansons should record these symphonies and the 6th again?
                      With whom do you suggest?

                      HS

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                      • richardfinegold
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 7666

                        #26
                        Originally posted by akiralx View Post
                        I have that SACD, very idiosyncratic though isn't it? The slow introduction to (i) seems to go on forever. I'm not sure I'll buy any more of that cycle - Kitajenko's is getting rave reviews on SACD.net.

                        Karajan is pretty good, I have enjoyed that for many years, more straightforward though. Tilson Thomas on DG is still my favourite.
                        The Pletnev is idiosyncratic, but I hugely enjoy it. The Karajan is a straighter view of the music that I have loved for years. I find Pletnev's interpretive choices to be very convincing.
                        I bought Kitaenko's Pathetique and didn't like it. I have the Shotakovich cycle by the same orchestra and conductor which is excellent, but the Pathetique left me cold and unmoved, not words that I would normally associate with this piece. i would avoid Jaarvi's SACD cycle, as most of the reviews have been negative.
                        I've heard the 5th and found myself in agreement with the negative reviewers.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                          With whom do you suggest?

                          HS
                          Hmmm I think it be great to have him conduct the St Petersburg PO.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • amateur51

                            #28
                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            Earlier I had referenced a Monteux / Boston recording. I had forgotten that High Resolution aficianados can also obtain a Monteux/Vienna PO concert recording in HD. I have this recording, which contains a complete concert, on DVD-A, but HDTracks lists the same recording in 96/24. There is a live performance of the 5th, similar to the Boston reading but with the extra energy that performing live offers; a spirited Romeo; and a very nice First Piano Concerto with John Ogdon.
                            I think the latter is taken from a tour that the LSO/Monteux/Ogden were doing in Vienna, so very 'live' - wonderful performances and pretty cheap too

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                            • amateur51

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                              Hmmm I think it be great to have him conduct the St Petersburg PO.
                              Great choice, BBM

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #30
                                Also the Manfred Symphony, as wll.
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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