Elgar: Symphonies Nos 1 and 2

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
    Ah yes, Elgar arranged for school orchestra...
    No that's Norrington's Elgar 1

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    • cloughie
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      • Dec 2011
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      #17
      Originally posted by ahinton View Post
      Not wishing to spoil the fun or change the terms of reference, but what about no. 3?
      No 3 WHAT?

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      • Petrushka
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        • Nov 2010
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        #18
        Elgar 1 was on R3 only last night, BBM.

        I love both of these equally and I've got lots of recordings. Boult's 1968 Lyrita tapings are very special indeed as are, in No 1, Solti, Barbirolli (1957) and, of course, Elgar himself which still packs quite a punch 80+ years on. Also strongly recommend Haitink and Colin Davis with the Dresden Staatskapelle. The 1976 Boult Prom is electrifying.

        Handley is fine in No 2 as is Barbirolli (1954 & 1964) and Boult of course.

        Incidentally, PG, I inderstand that Handley's 1981 LPO recording is in digital sound. The organ addition in the finale makes this my favourite No 2.
        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          Since its has been mentioned, Paul Daniel for no. 3, though I would not be without Andrew Davis who gave the first performance.
          Uh-oh... here's the green-ink brigade!
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Nick Armstrong
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
            Mark Elder's recent recordings with the Halle are rather good.

            Good shout

            I have No 1 and it's v good indeed.
            "...the isle is full of noises,
            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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              • Sep 2011
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              #21
              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
              Not wishing to spoil the fun or change the terms of reference, but what about no. 3?
              There are only three recordings as far as I know: the two Davises and Daniel; all of them very good. I haven't seen it programmed in the past few years.
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • amateur51

                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                There are only three recordings as far as I know: the two Davises and Daniel; all of them very good. I haven't seen it programmed in the past few years.
                Have checked Presto but no sign of a performance by Silvestri nor Berglund with the seasiders

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  There are only three recordings as far as I know: the two Davises and Daniel; all of them very good. I haven't seen it programmed in the past few years.
                  Hickox on Chandos

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                    • Sep 2011
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    Hickox on Chandos
                    - I didn't know of this!
                    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                    • Petrushka
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                      - I didn't know of this!


                      I have all of the Elgar 3 recordings, all good but Andrew Davis still the best.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • Nick Armstrong
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                        Hickox on Chandos
                        That's the one I have (as well as his No 1... I've also just found Haitink in 1 & 2, and Slatkin in No 1... I think I must have about 10 versions of No 1...)

                        I think I've only listened to that No 3 CD once
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • ahinton
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                          Ah yes, Elgar arranged for school orchestra...
                          Eh?...

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                          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            Uh-oh... here's the green-ink brigade!
                            Indeed. Isn't it horrible? But returning to topic, I think that if the Elgar/Payne 3 had been Elgar's only symphony, people would have had few reservations about it. But he composed 2 phenomenal ones, so the unfinished one is derided. a pity, but perhaps inevitable.

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                            • ahinton
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              There are only three recordings as far as I know: the two Davises and Daniel; all of them very good. I haven't seen it programmed in the past few years.
                              There have been five to date, the most recent being Sapporo SO / Tadaaki Otaka (2008, Signum Classics); the fourth (Hickox) has already been mentioned here since you posted this.

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                              • EdgeleyRob
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #30
                                As well as some already mentioned I also have Mackerras (LSO and RPO) which I think are quite good.
                                Elgar 2 over 1 every day of the week btw.

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