Has your Kubelik arrived yet Caliban ? What do you think ?
Forthcoming Klemperer Boxes
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Originally posted by Pabmusic View PostWell, maybe not, but it raises a very strong suspicion, doesn't it? And that must make us a little sceptical of claims that she was an 'innocent'. I imagine that the Nazis did not accept as members people who were not of like minds - or who at least said they were.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostHas your Kubelik arrived yet Caliban ? What do you think ?"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Mandryka
Originally posted by Caliban View PostYes it did... and I'm afraid I didn't get on with it at all, I'm afraid. I found the tempi a little strange, but also the recording or the remastering (not for the first time with DG Originals) extremely unattractive - congested and rather tinny, too much treble... none of the air and transparency I like in Schumann (or any music, for that matter - but vital for Schumann's orchestra). So it's going back I'm afraid! Might have to try the Sony version by Mr Kubelik....
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Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post"Be afraid, be very afraid!" It could almost be a lawyer's cri de guerre.
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostYes it did... and I'm afraid I didn't get on with it at all, I'm afraid. I found the tempi a little strange, but also the recording or the remastering (not for the first time with DG Originals) extremely unattractive - congested and rather tinny, too much treble... none of the air and transparency I like in Schumann (or any music, for that matter - but vital for Schumann's orchestra). So it's going back I'm afraid! Might have to try the Sony version by Mr Kubelik....Last edited by Barbirollians; 27-01-13, 01:44.
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I have listened to these Schumann Kubeliks again tonight . I suppose I see what you mean about the recordings - they are a bit dry .
Not so sure about the tempi . As far as I can see comparing the timings with Sawallisch they are scarcely more than thirty seconds apart . One minute in a couple of movements - Kubelik tending to be slightly quicker in the third movements and Sawallisch in the finales.
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Originally posted by Mandryka View PostCan't find anything on EMI's site, but the booklet for the Bruckner box features a trailer for eight further Klemperer boxes to be released next year.
They will be:
Januay 2013
Brahms (Symphonies, etc, Requiem)
Concertos (Mozart, Beethoven, Schumann, Liszt, Brahms)
Mozart (Symphonies/Overtures/Serenades)
March 2013
Mozart (Operas)
20th Century Music (Hindemith, Klemperer, Stravinsky, Weill)
May 2013
Mahler (2,4, 7, 9 + Das Lied)
Wagner/Strauss
Bach/Rameau/Handel/Gluck/Haydn
All these works feature the PO/NPO. Wasn't there a GROTC release of Klemperer performing the Resurrection Symphony with the BRSO? A shame it hasn't been included here: I expect rights issues account for its absence.
The Wagner/Strauss box looks interesting: it's 5 CDs, so presumably will include his last ever studio recording (Walkure, Act 1) as well as the Wotan's Abschied with Bailey, which was - apparently - actually conducted by Goodall. These latter two items have appeared most recently on Testament - I have them on 2nd hand vinyl. They were, oddly enough, the first Klemperer recordings I ever heard and put me off OK for many years!
Am I the only person who is puzzled that Klemperer was so keen to record Mozart's operas in his final years? He wasn't most people's idea of a natural fit for this repertoire, though I enjoy his recordings of Zauberflote adn (especially) DG.
In the midst of a chitty day at work an email arrive from the tax dodger re the Bach, Haydn etc. box. I read the start of a review of one John Fowler (Ams will now out him as PDQ Bach!) and as I had little or no Klemperer I impulsed and it seemed to arrive within hours with free postage.
I have concentrated thus far on the Bach which I find very good but driving down to Leeds I popped on the Oxford Symphony and was knocked over, not an onto the hard shoulder moment but almost- so good I played it twice. I returned to the aforementioned Fowler review to find this "...I think Klemperer's recording of Haydn 102 is the greatest recording of a Haydn symphony ever...." ....should be a good drive home!
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Beef Oven
Originally posted by antongould View PostIn the midst of a chitty day at work an email arrive from the tax dodger re the Bach, Haydn etc. box. I read the start of a review of one John Fowler (Ams will now out him as PDQ Bach!) and as I had little or no Klemperer I impulsed and it seemed to arrive within hours with free postage.
I have concentrated thus far on the Bach which I find very good but driving down to Leeds I popped on the Oxford Symphony and was knocked over, not an onto the hard shoulder moment but almost- so good I played it twice. I returned to the aforementioned Fowler review to find this "...I think Klemperer's recording of Haydn 102 is the greatest recording of a Haydn symphony ever...." ....should be a good drive home!
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Have I got this wrong? What am I missing?
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Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
... I only say this because I am struggling with a double standard that seems to permeate the Radio 3 Forum on this matter. Amazon seems to be roundly condemned by the same people that fill their boots with the bargains on offer
Have I got this wrong? What am I missing?
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