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Carl Nielsen Symphonies
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Originally posted by Dave2002 View PostThis is at least partially good news. I heard some of the concerts by Davis over the last few years, and I was thinking that it would be worth getting the CDs or SACDs, as I enjoyed the concerts. It's a shame that the multi-channel mix seems to have problems, but good that the performances can be enjoyed in stereo. I think some of the LSO discs also exist in CD only versions - can't remember about this one. Currently the store appears to show only SACDs, but I have a feeling that there was a set with CDs. Sounds as though it might not be worth splashing out for the SACD versions if CDs are still possible.
There is a single inventory for SACD. There is still one volume to come (no set has been released yet) and its future arrival has been announced, cover photo below. Of the two released so far, the surround mix produces no problems on my system provided it's played at the right level.
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Originally posted by PJPJ View PostRe: Nielsen symphonies - LSO/Davis
There is a single inventory for SACD.
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Originally posted by PJPJ View PostRe: Nielsen symphonies - LSO/Davis
There is a single inventory for SACD. There is still one volume to come (no set has been released yet) and its future arrival has been announced, cover photo below. Of the two released so far, the surround mix produces no problems on my system provided it's played at the right level.
Happy New Year to all.
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostRave review from Anthony Burton for the Gilbert in BBCMM and a positive one in IRR.Last edited by Sir Velo; 02-01-13, 15:17.
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Originally posted by Sir Velo View PostWould this be the same Gilbert that our old friend, Thomas Roth, recommended and was patronisingly castigated by a certain verbose contributor for so doing? I think we should be told.
Still wondering how members who have listened to them rate the Kuchar/Janacek PO recordings - I like them (but my knowledge is very limited, plus I have nothing to compare them to). JLW likes them, and as her opinion always seemed well reasoned to me, that was a recommendation I rate highly. Would still like to hear other opinions, if at all possible.
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They sound fine to me, and I can't add anything useful to JLW's thoughts. However, I have listened to Michael Schønwandt's cycle, now on Naxos, with great pleasure. I have been addicted to these works for so long, and have accumulated so many recordings of them - I think the only cycles I don't have are Rozhdestvensky's (the disc of shorter works has some tempi which seem terribly slow) and Salonen's.
The BBC MM DVD is well worth getting if you haven't got a copy - tremendously exciting, my nearly needing Propranolol to listen to it.
PS I did try a few weeks ago to thin out the Nielsen collection, and failed to move a single disc to the get-rid-of pile.
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Originally posted by Sir Velo View PostWould this be the same Gilbert that our old friend, Thomas Roth, recommended and was patronisingly castigated by a certain verbose contributor for so doing? I think we should be told.
I hope she returns nevertheless.
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Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View PostI think I have to reioterate herbert blomstedt's cycle. But I might have to acquire the Gilbert one too!
It's amazing that a conductor of Sir Colin Davis's stature, has never conducted these works until recently?
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Originally posted by Ferretfancy View PostThere seems to be a historic failure in this country to appreciate Nielsen. As far back as the days of Neville Cardus I remember him being rather dismissive, and this has always puzzled me. The BBC Music Guides gave the symphonies some recognition when they published a monograph by Robert Simpson, but there were still few performances until recently, apart from Nos. 4 & 5. To me they are great music,very different from Sibelius, but just as fascinating.
Speaking of under appreciated , I have been listening to the Gilbert more. I think that he tends to emphasize the
The quieter introspective side of the composer at the expense of the more overtly dramatic sections. I'm beginning to to warm to his interpretation. Blomstedt continues to be my favorite , but I like Gilbert as a supplement for a different point of view.
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I have great respect for JLW and after reading her praise for Chung with the Gothenburg SO I bought their recordings of Nos 2 and 3 cheaply, second hand, from Amazon. My first reaction when I played No 3 was "Bloody hell, this is loud". I had to set my volume control at a much lower level than I can ever remember.
Now, we all know that CDs have a maximum level which can't be surpassed so I had a very strong feeling as to what was going on - and, after looking at the ripped files in Soundforge, found I was right.
The only way to make something sound that loud is to boost up the loud passages and then use limiting (i.e. truncate the tops and bottoms of the waveforms). In fact, looking at the waveform and using Soundforge's clipping detector, it turns out that all the loud passages are pushed heavily into hard clipping. Not good! They can get away with it because the audible effects of the clipping are masked by rasp of the fortissimo brass.
I really disliked the disc. I found it tiring to listen to. It was rather like being battered around the ears for 38 minutes (something Nielsen can do very well on his own, without BIS's assistance). It was a relief to turn to Blomstedt's recording which has very much more natural and believable audio perspective. (I also preferred the performance.)Last edited by johnb; 04-01-13, 14:41.
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