My First Beethoven

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  • richardfinegold
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    • Sep 2012
    • 7673

    #61
    Originally posted by Karafan View Post
    'Twas I who unearthed the thread Richard - as I have been looking at the bigToscanini box and was doing a bit of site searching on him :)

    Mystery solved. Which big Toscanini box are you refering to? There are a few of them...I bought a 12 volume set in Vienna last year on the Membran Label. Great performances, indifferently remastered (but it was very cheap).

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #62
      Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
      Mine was a CfP LP, I bought as young teenager in, I think 1971 or 72, from Boots the Chemist, Chatham, Kent. Those were the days! Symphonies 5 & 8, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Andre Cluytens.

      Not bad for starters!
      - I think this was the third Beethoven recording I ever bought: great performances.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • LeMartinPecheur
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        • Apr 2007
        • 4717

        #63
        My dad had Decca Ace of Clubses of the 5th and 6th, both Kleiber (Erich). Once I'd discovered R3 c1970 I quickly acquired the 7th (CfP, PO/Cantelli, though I hated the slow trio) and was given the Schmidt-Isserstedt 9th as a birthday present (damn that side-break in the slow movement...). I also recall buying a cheap 1 and 8, a DG recording reissued on Heliodor IIRC. Was it Jochum or Bohm? - can't check the shelves as I can for most of the above-listed - it was an awful UK pressing that quickly got axed.

        After that I started having money to spend, either vac earnings or my student grant (remember them?), and more conventional full-price fare such as Kempff's Emperor started accumulating, much helped by Gramophone and BBC Record Review. Somehow the process still continues, though my LvB shelves aren't the heaviest-loaded on this board, by a long chalk!
        I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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        • Karafan
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 786

          #64
          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
          Mystery solved. Which big Toscanini box are you refering to? There are a few of them...I bought a 12 volume set in Vienna last year on the Membran Label. Great performances, indifferently remastered (but it was very cheap).
          This baby: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
          "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #65
            Originally posted by Karafan View Post
            Phew. It's gone up a bit since I got it as a birthday present to myself a couple of years ago. I paid considerably less than the best current marketplace price, and I got it direct from amazon.co.uk. I was still miffed to find a little duplication when I later got the EMI Toscanini box.

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            • kea
              Full Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 749

              #66
              My parents owned these two:



              (+2 and 3)

              Of course even before knowing any of the symphonies I had borrowed this from a friend:



              age 7 approx.

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              • richardfinegold
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                • Sep 2012
                • 7673

                #67
                Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                To paraphrase the maestro....thatsa a bigga boxa!

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                • CallMePaul
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                  • Jan 2014
                  • 791

                  #68
                  I think it was the Pathétique, Moonlight and Apassionata sonatas, played by Daniel Chorzempa on Classics for Pleasure. I bought this because it was cheap, after hearing the Apassionata on Radio 3. I no longer have this LP; I replaced it with Richter in the Apassionata and later added Brendel in all 3. Daniel Chorzempa was better known as an organist and I think that told in his piano style, especially in the first movements of opp 8 and 57. I have not seen nor heard his name for many years - does anyone know if he is still active?

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                  • Karafan
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 786

                    #69
                    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                    Karafan--I prefer the BBC Toscanini Eroica from circa 1935.
                    I don't think there's a BBC Eroica in the big RAC Complete Collection box, Richard - do you have a link for it please in CD format?

                    K.
                    "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                      I don't think there's a BBC Eroica in the big RAC Complete Collection box, Richard - do you have a link for it please in CD format?

                      K.
                      The 6 disc EMI Toscanini box is claimed to include all his Beethoven recordings with the BBC Symphony Orchestra. There is no Eroica in that, either. I only know of the 1939, 1948 and 1953 recordings, all with the NBC Symphony Orchestra.

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                      • Karafan
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 786

                        #71
                        Yes, Bryn, I was having difficulty with that. He did conduct the BBC SO in 1937 in the Queen's Hall, but no recording exists and that is two years later than the one Richard F. recommends.....

                        Over to you, Richard, please....

                        K.
                        "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                        • Karafan
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 786

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                          The 6 disc EMI Toscanini box is claimed to include all his Beethoven recordings with the BBC Symphony Orchestra. There is no Eroica in that, either. I only know of the 1939, 1948 and 1953 recordings, all with the NBC Symphony Orchestra.
                          Anyone else know of a Toscanini BBC Eroica from c1935, please?
                          "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                            Anyone else know of a Toscanini BBC Eroica from c1935, please?
                            Not I. "N" is next to "B" on the keyboard - perhaps it was just a slip of the finger? (And that 1939 NBC recording is astonishing.)
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Karafan
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 786

                              #74
                              Cheers, Ferney...
                              "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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