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  • Petrushka
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    • Nov 2010
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    Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
    Just been listening to the new Warner remastering of his Brahms symphonies set with the VPO .

    I know many regard these recordings generally as just too slow but listening to the a First tonight in which does seem a better transfer than that made by Royal Classics some years ago I am just struck by his beautiful the playing is and how remarkably Barbirolli exposed the inner life of these works . I think I can forgive the odd slow tempo when these performances have so much to tell us .

    I said something similar on the What Are You Listening To Now thread last weekend. It was the first time I'd heard this set and I was much impressed. The playing of the 1966/7 Vienna Philharmonic (horns and strings in particular) is outstanding and worth the price of the set alone. As I said last week, Barbirolli somehow manages to make these symphonies lit from within. Symphonies 2 & 3 aren't particularly slow but 1 & 4 are though, like you, this didn't particularly bother me given such fine playing.
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • Barbirollians
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      • Nov 2010
      • 11688

      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
      I said something similar on the What Are You Listening To Now thread last weekend. It was the first time I'd heard this set and I was much impressed. The playing of the 1966/7 Vienna Philharmonic (horns and strings in particular) is outstanding and worth the price of the set alone. As I said last week, Barbirolli somehow manages to make these symphonies lit from within. Symphonies 2 & 3 aren't particularly slow but 1 & 4 are though, like you, this didn't particularly bother me given such fine playing.
      I compared the No 2 this afternoon with the Cgebouw/Chailly recording - a knockout win for VPO/Barbirolli - not at all too slow but great emotional impact - the Chailly just sounds well played in comparison

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11688

        On that 1962 New York set which took me ages to get round to buying is an immensely impressive and moving account of Beethoven 4 with Gina Bachauer- a name I had heard of but not her playing . Time to look out her other recordings.

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        • johnb
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          • Mar 2007
          • 2903

          I see the 109 disc Complete Barbirolli Warner box is now available for pre-order on Amazon for £171.99.

          Barbirolli and the Halle concerts at the Free Trade Hall were such an important part of my teenage years - I still vividly remember performances of Mahler 2, Gerontious, etc.

          Anyway, I've clicked the button, even though I've never before paid anything like that amount for a boxed set.

          Curiously it is ranked #124 in Classical Music (CDs & Vinyl).
          Last edited by johnb; 16-05-20, 14:31.

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          • cloughie
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            • Dec 2011
            • 22126

            Originally posted by johnb View Post
            I see the 109 disc Complete Barbirolli Warner box is now available for pre-order on Amazon for £171.99.

            Barbirolli and the Halle concerts at the Free Trade Hall were such an important part of my teenage years - I still vividly remember performances of Mahler 2, Gerontious, etc.

            Anyway, I've clicked the button, even though I've never before paid anything like that amount for a boxed set.

            Curiously it is ranked #124 in Classical Music (CDs & Vinyl).
            Yes does look a lot at first glance but at less than £2 per disc actually very good, even if there is much duplication. A big Sir John box would look good on anyone’s shelf!

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            • Petrushka
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              • Nov 2010
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              Originally posted by cloughie View Post
              Yes does look a lot at first glance but at less than £2 per disc actually very good, even if there is much duplication. A big Sir John box would look good on anyone’s shelf!
              I just love these big boxed sets! I subscribe to the philosophy of get them while you can. Misses my birthday by a fortnight but I can imagine any Amazon vouchers received going towards this. Some duplication is inevitable but, in my case, it's still worth it.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • johnb
                Full Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 2903

                The Europadisc price is £152.96.

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                • cloughie
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                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22126

                  Had a glance at the track listing - looks like it is fairly comprehensive and contains quite a lot of pre60s stuff. Also appears to have a number of vocal recitals. Unlike some companies who put out shorter discs matching the original LP issues, Warner tend to fill discs - with some ‘interesting’ combinations, eg I like Elgar 1 and also Mastersingers Ov, but not sure whether I want the latter as an encore to the former and also Appalachia is a filler to Verdi Requiem, Purcell and Bach as a filler to Heldenleben, Metamorphosen after Vaughan Williams London (could be described as a strange Carillion), and Debussy’s Nocturnes and La Mer are strange discmates to Grieg’s Norwegian Dances!

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