The Best Mahler 3?

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  • Karafan
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 786

    The Bavarian RSO under Jansons - soloist Nathalie Stutzmann. Outstanding. Not to be confused with his inferior Concertgebouw recording.

    VERY hard to find now, as it was an exclusive "Abbonenten" 2CD set available only to subscribers - thankfully still available through Moskitos (an excellent German seller) on German Amazon. This should whet the appetite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdS06DZJLek

    K.
    "Let me have my own way in exactly everything, and a sunnier and more pleasant creature does not exist." Thomas Carlyle

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    • Roehre

      Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
      Once every 30 years would be plenty enough for me or as a cure for insomnia.
      One of the very few differences in opinion I'm afraid

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      • remdataram
        Full Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 154

        Whatever view we hold about Mahler he always elicits lively debate.

        For me the Abbado/Luzern Blu-ray of the 3rd provides the perfect combination of a sonically and visually stunning performance, by a truly great Conductor. I wouldn't go three months without watching it, never mind thirty years!

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        • Stanfordian
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 9314

          Originally posted by Suffolkcoastal View Post
          Sorry BS, a lot of Mahler makes me impatient, angry, claustrophobic and very depressed as well as totally and utterly bored, especially the 3rd and 8th symphonies. I'm ok with symphonies 1, 4, 6 & 9 and some of the songs which I don't mind, but the remaining symphonies and Das Lied I cannot get on with. There aren't too many composers that I have 'problems' with so that I have plenty to listen to.
          Hiya Suffolkcoastal,

          I find that certain works such as Mahler 2, 3 & 8 benefit greatly by being heard in live in concert but the orchestra and conductor must be of high quality.

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          • amateur51

            Originally posted by Karafan View Post
            The Bavarian RSO under Jansons - soloist Nathalie Stutzmann. Outstanding. Not to be confused with his inferior Concertgebouw recording.

            VERY hard to find now, as it was an exclusive "Abbonenten" 2CD set available only to subscribers - thankfully still available through Moskitos (an excellent German seller) on German Amazon. This should whet the appetite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdS06DZJLek

            K.
            Triffic tips & links Karafan!

            Lovely to watch Mariss looking so concentrated & well

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            • Alison
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6459

              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
              So far (end of Part 1), I'd say Nott as good as I had hoped.
              Got to the end yet Nethers ?

              I only have Nott 6 and 7 and enjoyed them both very much. Good sounding recordings too.

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              • richardfinegold
                Full Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 7667

                Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                Musicans health warning!! Mahler can be quite addictive! If your ever concerned about this please become a member of for3.org!! :)
                I'm already hoplessly intoxicated. How is the M6 arrangement going, bbm?

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                • richardfinegold
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7667

                  Originally posted by remdataram View Post
                  Whatever view we hold about Mahler he always elicits lively debate.

                  For me the Abbado/Luzern Blu-ray of the 3rd provides the perfect combination of a sonically and visually stunning performance, by a truly great Conductor. I wouldn't go three months without watching it, never mind thirty years!
                  My current favorite.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by Alison View Post
                    Got to the end yet Nethers ?

                    I only have Nott 6 and 7 and enjoyed them both very much. Good sounding recordings too.
                    I have indeed. I very much liked the way the oboe and cor anglais players observed the hinaufziehen instruction. Not simply portamenti, but with real character. A very different approach to the whole work from that of Abbado, Gielen, Rattle or your beloved Bernie, but I found it entirely valid in its own right. Agreed about the audio picture, too.

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                    • Barbirollians
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 11700

                      Originally posted by Alison View Post
                      Got to the end yet Nethers ?

                      I only have Nott 6 and 7 and enjoyed them both very much. Good sounding recordings too.
                      The No 2 is very clear sighted and superbly played - only drawback a wobbly contralto that Baker and Ferrier and countless others knock into a cocked hat .

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                      • HighlandDougie
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3091

                        Originally posted by Karafan View Post
                        The Bavarian RSO under Jansons - soloist Nathalie Stutzmann. Outstanding. Not to be confused with his inferior Concertgebouw recording.

                        K.
                        Now arrived from Moskitos. Possibly - no, not possibly, it was - the best live Mahler 3 I've heard was conducted by Jansons (others include Abbado and Haitink) and this brought back why I thought so at the time - it's so good that I immediately wanted to listen to it again. I can only assume that contractual reasons involving the RCO version are the reason why it was confined to BRSO subscribers, rather than being released more widely. Deepest thanks to Karafan for pointing out its existence.

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                        • BBMmk2
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          Anybody mentioned Abbado/Lucerne Festival Orchestra? The best I've heard.
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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                          • amateur51

                            Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                            Now arrived from Moskitos. Possibly - no, not possibly, it was - the best live Mahler 3 I've heard was conducted by Jansons (others include Abbado and Haitink) and this brought back why I thought so at the time - it's so good that I immediately wanted to listen to it again. I can only assume that contractual reasons involving the RCO version are the reason why it was confined to BRSO subscribers, rather than being released more widely. Deepest thanks to Karafan for pointing out its existence.
                            Seconded!

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                            • Petrushka
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12255

                              Originally posted by HighlandDougie View Post
                              Now arrived from Moskitos. Possibly - no, not possibly, it was - the best live Mahler 3 I've heard was conducted by Jansons (others include Abbado and Haitink) and this brought back why I thought so at the time - it's so good that I immediately wanted to listen to it again. I can only assume that contractual reasons involving the RCO version are the reason why it was confined to BRSO subscribers, rather than being released more widely. Deepest thanks to Karafan for pointing out its existence.
                              HD: Have you got a link to Moskitos. A Google search is less than helpful. Thanks
                              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                              • amateur51

                                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                                HD: Have you got a link to Moskitos. A Google search is less than helpful. Thanks
                                I used the link that karafan gave in message #54 Pet ...

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