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  • Barbirollians
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 11697

    #46
    I have to say the Rattle and Barbirolli are my favourite performances - the LPO/Tennstedt put me off the symphony for years !

    I am very fond of Nott's Mahler 2 and should get his 3rd methinks.

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    • Cheapskater

      #47
      By the way, Exact Audio Copy is a great program, once the fiddly set-up process is over. I rather think that it produces better sound than the original (hard to believe, I know) when you rip a disc with it and burn the result onto one of your own CDs. At least it has seemed that way when I have tried it out. I would be interested to hear from others who have experimented with this technique.[/QUOTE]

      Alf,
      Sorry to hear about your bronzed CDs. Fortunately, to my knowledge, these are few and far between. I agree with you about EAC being a great program and I can see why playing out the extracted rip from hard drive could sound better than from CD (more precision playing the rip from hard drive than (relatively) inaccurate CD drive?). But I can't think why a subsequent burn to CD could sound better than the original, I'll take your word for it and maybe will try sometime (If I did a CD backup, it would be slow burn (x4) to quality CDR media)

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      • Cheapskater

        #48
        Originally posted by Alf-Prufrock View Post
        Th

        By the way, Exact Audio Copy is a great program, once the fiddly set-up process is over. I rather think that it produces better sound than the original (hard to believe, I know) when you rip a disc with it and burn the result onto one of your own CDs. At least it has seemed that way when I have tried it out. I would be interested to hear from others who have experimented with this technique.
        Alf, Sorry to hear about your bronzed CD, luckily these seem to be rare. I had a few CDs with pinholes in the pressing, but error correction seemed to cope. Absolutely agree with EAC being a great program and I can see why FLAC rips could sound better that the original (more precision from hard drive than from CD drive?) but I can't think of a reason why subsequent burns could sound better than the original. I'll take your word for it and maybe try someday.

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        • techniquest
          Full Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 15

          #49
          I have a few rather rare - and in some cases rather poor - but nonetheless interesting recordings of the 3rd: Colorado MahlerFest XIII (Mahlerfest Orchestra / Robert Olsen); Deutches SO Berlin / Kent Nagano on Elatus; Slovenian Philharmonic / Marjana Lipovsek on their own label; Scottish Sinfonia / Neil Mantle on their own label; Zagreb Radio/TV SO / Josip Daniel from the Movieplay SA box set; Sofia Philharmonic / Emil Tabakov form the Capriccio box set which is really rather good; and even the Green Mountain Mahler Festival recording from June 2010 which, to be absolutely honest, is a real shocker both in terms of performance and recorded sound.
          I have some good recordings too of which the early Bernstein on Sony is a real corker!!

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            #50
            Originally posted by Cheapskater View Post
            Alf, Sorry to hear about your bronzed CD, luckily these seem to be rare. I had a few CDs with pinholes in the pressing, but error correction seemed to cope. Absolutely agree with EAC being a great program and I can see why FLAC rips could sound better that the original (more precision from hard drive than from CD drive?) but I can't think of a reason why subsequent burns could sound better than the original. I'll take your word for it and maybe try someday.
            I suppose that if the usual CD player has some problems reading from a pressed CD, then a burned CD-R made from a rip of that disc might just be more consistently read by the player which had a problem with the original.

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            • Mahler's3rd

              #51
              I have recently added the Royal Concertgebouw/Mariss Jansons recording of the 3rd to the collection on the RCO Live label, wow, what a recording, my favourites are the Abaddo & Barbirolli, this is pushing them

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #52
                Ihave Abbado(Berliner), Rattle(CBSO) and Haitink(RCO). Now Mahlers3rd now mentioning the one by Jansons and RCO, well, looks like another one comning my way!!
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                • teamsaint
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25210

                  #53
                  Mahler 3

                  Hi all.

                  Feeling a bit disappointed to be unable to make Mahler 3 at the Proms this year, (), and foolishly missed the MTT show at the RFH recently.
                  So I thought I might solicit views on some of the best recordings around,so as to investigate better.
                  It was covered on BaL in 2007, but only by experts (), so lets hear what you (other experts) have to say.
                  Thanks

                  TS.

                  (No chance of a crafty move to a better seat in this one...!!)
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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #54
                    If you can bear to do without the oboe and cor anglais hinaufziehen of the night bird, Horenstein is rather special. However, my first choice would be Gielen, whose double reed players also pull of the hinaufziehen effect magnificently.

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                    • Thropplenoggin
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1587

                      #55
                      Jonathan Nott/Bamberger Symphony Orchestra on Tudor Records: stunning recording: the percussion in the opening movement is breathtaking.
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                      • umslopogaas
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1977

                        #56
                        I have, on CD or LP: Solti, Haitink, Mehta, Kubelik, Horenstein, Kondrashin. Its ages since I played any of them, but just looking at the (mostly) LP covers, if I could only have one I'd go for Mehta on Decca. As a back up, hmm ... probably Horenstein, who apparently got the Grand Prix du Disque for this recording, so who am I to argue?

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                        • Nick Armstrong
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 26538

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                          Jonathan Nott/Bamberger Symphony Orchestra on Tudor Records: stunning recording: the percussion in the opening movement is breathtaking.
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                          • Flay
                            Full Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 5795

                            #58
                            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                            Hi all.

                            Feeling a bit disappointed to be unable to make Mahler 3 at the Proms this year, ())
                            I haven't had a chance to look through the Proms schedule yet. When is it on?

                            When I try to seek out Mahler (and some others) in the "composers" listing from the Proms website it tells me: "Sorry, that page wasn't found. Please check your typing and try again..."

                            What's going on?
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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Flay View Post
                              I haven't had a chance to look through the Proms schedule yet. When is it on?

                              When I try to seek out Mahler (and some others) in the "composers" listing from the Proms website it tells me: "Sorry, that page wasn't found. Please check your typing and try again..."

                              What's going on?
                              Looks like Thursday 11 September: Prom 73: Riccardo Chailly and the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra, 7.00pm, Royal Albert Hall

                              However, the link to more info is indeed broken.

                              [Ah, here you go, via a bit of lateral thinking: http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/whats-on/...ember-11/15140 ]

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #60
                                I say Abbado with me, Then hmmmmmmm.........., David Zinman, anybody?
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                                I go where music was born

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