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  • Petrushka
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 12402

    #16
    To my utter astonishment I have managed to accumulate 25 versions of this symphony with a further two on DVD!!

    I'll edit in a list of them all later on when I have more time for those who are interested in this prime example of 'collection bloat'. For now, though, I will say that my prime recommendation is without a shadow of doubt the Berlin PO and Bernard Haitink. There are several examples (Rattle and Solti among them) who are quite superb for over 90 minutes then blow it all away in a speeded up sprint to the finishing line thus ruining the overwhelming momentum that builds up. Why some conductors do this is a mystery to me because Haitink in all his versions, but especially with the BPO, judges the tremendous final climax to overwhelming perfection making us realise that everything has been leading up to that moment.

    I was present at the BPO/Haitink Barbican performance on September 27 2004 and it was one of the greatest concert hall experiences I've had. His recording is the one to go for.

    Edit: For those interested here are my 25 versions some of which may now be difficult to find:

    BPO/Haitink
    Concertgebouw/Haitink (1966)
    Concertgebouw/Haitink (live Christmas Day 1983)
    Chicago SO/Haitink
    BPO/Abbado
    VPO/Abbado
    Philharmonia/Zander
    NYPO/Bernstein (1961)
    NYPO/Bernstein (1987)
    NYPO/Boulez (live 1976)
    VPO/Boulez
    Concertgebouw/Chailly
    LSO/Horenstein
    Chicago SO/Solti
    Czech PO/Neumann
    BRSO/Kubelik
    CBSO/Rattle
    LPO/Tennstedt (1979)
    LPO/Tennstedt (live 1986)
    Concertgebouw/Jansons
    Cologne RSO/Bertini
    Chicago SO/Levine
    Halle/Barbirolli
    BBCSO/Boult
    LSO/Gergiev

    DVD's are:

    VPO/Bernstein
    Lucerne FO/Abbado
    Last edited by Petrushka; 26-10-12, 23:20. Reason: Added listing + typo
    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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    • HighlandDougie
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3142

      #17
      The 18 versions should be 21 shortly as I have been seduced by the enthusiasm for Gielen, Levine and Haitink/BPO. I heard Haitink with the BBC Symphony Orchestra at the Edinburgh Festival which was a wonderful experience: his later Chicago SO recording was a bit of a letdown so I'm looking forward to hearing the BPO recording. Ah, the joys of Amazon Marketplace ...

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      • makropulos
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 1685

        #18
        To add just one more to the terrific suggestions, Honeck with the Pittsburgh SO on Exton blew my socks off a few months ago when I heard it. It's certainly one I'd suggest trying - though Bernstein (first recording), Abbado (Lucerne), Haitink and Tennstedt (both live) are the ones I probably listen to most often.

        Has anybody mentioned Martinon and the Chicago SO? An exciting live performance was issued in a Chicago SO box a few years ago.

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        • richardfinegold
          Full Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 7847

          #19
          Originally posted by Mandryka View Post
          I've been listening to this one a lot recently: it's nudging its way to the top of my list of favoured Mahler symphonies.

          These are the recordings I own:

          Bernstein (1961/1987)

          Haitink (1966)

          Tennestedt (1979)

          Solti (1984)

          Bertini (1980s)

          I've just ordered Abbado's recent (ish) BPO recording, too.


          Which recording do you rate highest, of these or others?
          I second the Bernstein
          add MTT/SFSO, Abbado/Lucerne Festival Orchestra, Horenstein/LSO

          I recently heard Rattle and Birmingham for the first time. Impressive, just a bit short of the top rank

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          • AjAjAjH
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 209

            #20
            Glad to see someone's mentioned the Barbirolli. It's old but it's a bit special. BBC LEGENDS

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            • Petrushka
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 12402

              #21
              Originally posted by makropulos View Post
              To add just one more to the terrific suggestions, Honeck with the Pittsburgh SO on Exton blew my socks off a few months ago when I heard it. It's certainly one I'd suggest trying - though Bernstein (first recording), Abbado (Lucerne), Haitink and Tennstedt (both live) are the ones I probably listen to most often.

              Has anybody mentioned Martinon and the Chicago SO? An exciting live performance was issued in a Chicago SO box a few years ago.
              Honeck and Nott look like numbers 26 & 27 for me.
              "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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              • BBMmk2
                Late Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #22
                This is what I have heard so far: Berliner Philharmoniker/Abbado; Concertgebouw/Haitink; CBSO/Rattle
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • richardfinegold
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 7847

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                  Honeck and Nott look like numbers 26 & 27 for me.
                  I worked in a record shop as an Undergrad in the 1970s. At the time the only ones we carried were Haitink and Solti. Back then, those represented the two polar extremes of Mahler interpretation for me.
                  Petrushka, I forgot if you had Abbado/Lucerne in your collection. The Posthorn is the best of any recording that I own. In multi channel it really coveys the "far away" effect. The camera on the Blu Ray scans the rafters of the auditorium. Very effective.

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                  • Petrushka
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12402

                    #24
                    Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                    I worked in a record shop as an Undergrad in the 1970s. At the time the only ones we carried were Haitink and Solti. Back then, those represented the two polar extremes of Mahler interpretation for me.
                    Petrushka, I forgot if you had Abbado/Lucerne in your collection. The Posthorn is the best of any recording that I own. In multi channel it really coveys the "far away" effect. The camera on the Blu Ray scans the rafters of the auditorium. Very effective.
                    Tes, I do have that DVD. Moreover, I was present at the 2007 Prom that Abbado and the Lucerne FO gave just 3 days before the one on DVD. A great performance and an unforgettable evening.
                    Last edited by Petrushka; 28-10-12, 21:44. Reason: Typo spotted hours later!
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                    • VodkaDilc

                      #25
                      No-one has mentioned Tilson Thomas with the LSO and Janet Baker. Perhaps it's no longer available.

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                      • richardfinegold
                        Full Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 7847

                        #26
                        Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                        No-one has mentioned Tilson Thomas with the LSO and Janet Baker. Perhaps it's no longer available.
                        It is listed by Arkivmusik.

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                        • VodkaDilc

                          #27
                          Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                          It is listed by Arkivmusik.
                          It's excellent (It has Dame JB - what more need I add?)

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                          • akiralx
                            Full Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 431

                            #28
                            Nott and Boulez are v good, as is Segerstam. My top choice is the Czech PO under Kobayashi on Exton - a favourite on the Mahler forum.

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                            • Thomas Roth

                              #29
                              Many great recordings around. Levine, Tennstedt, Abbado... and I quite like the LAPO-Mehta on Decca.

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                              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                                Gone fishin'
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 30163

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Thomas Roth View Post
                                and I quite like the LAPO-Mehta on Decca.
                                Yes, so do I: I bought it after an IPO/Mehta Proms performance back in about 1982-3 (the only time I've heard the work Live). Wouldn't recommend it as "the best" version, though.
                                Last edited by ferneyhoughgeliebte; 29-10-12, 19:29.
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