Bach's Orchestral Suites - Recommendations Please

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  • Roslynmuse
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    • Jun 2011
    • 1241

    #31
    Originally posted by cloughie View Post
    I've long been an admirer of the ASMF Marriner which when it came out was a breath of fresh air compared to the stodgy versions available at the time.
    Unfortunately I got to know these pieces in my teens through one of those 'stodgy' versions - the Munchinger Decca set that was reissued many many times. Even now, I can't listen to them without hearing Munchinger's thick textures and slow tempi like ghosts behind whatever a more H-I performance offers.

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26540

      #32
      Originally posted by Roslynmuse View Post
      Unfortunately I got to know these pieces in my teens through one of those 'stodgy' versions - the Munchinger Decca set that was reissued many many times. Even now, I can't listen to them without hearing Munchinger's thick textures and slow tempi like ghosts behind whatever a more H-I performance offers.

      I studied the first Suite for Music 'O' level, and the recording we listened to was Munchinger. It hasn't particularly haunted my listening since.

      The most haunting association of an 'old style' performance for me is the butchered version used to (for me) exhilarating effect in that lovely little film "Antoine et Colette" (Truffaut's French segment of the portmanteau "L'Amour à Vingt Ans"): where the teenage hero chooses an LP of the piece to accompany opening the shutters of his little studio first thing in the morning and surveying Paris: see from 2' 30" here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMVX...eature=related (... something I recreated many a time during my first year away from home in Paris, working in a record shop etc.)
      Last edited by Nick Armstrong; 11-10-12, 23:07.
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • amateur51

        #33
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post

        I studied the first Suite for Music 'O' level, and the recording we listened to was Munchinger. It hasn't particularly haunted my listening since.

        The most haunting association of an 'old style' performance for me is the butchered version used to (for me) exhilarating effect in that lovely little film "Antoine et Colette" (Truffaut's French segment of the portmanteau "L'Amour à Vingt Ans"): where the teenage hero chooses an LP of the piece to accompany opening the shutters of his little studio first thing in the morning and surveying Paris: see from 2' 30" here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JMVX...eature=related (... something I recreated many a time during my first year away from home in Paris, working in a record shop etc.)
        Great memories, Caliban - and look at all those Goddesses parked side-by-side as the music moves on ... :sigh:

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26540

          #34
          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
          Great memories, Caliban - and look at all those Goddesses parked side-by-side as the music moves on ... :sigh:
          I know!!! I wonder why the first car I ever bought was a DS23?!

          I was Antoine Doinel!

          The whole thing is unbelievably nostalgic for me - even though it's nearly 20 years before I ever set foot in Paris...

          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Flay
            Full Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 5795

            #35
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            And see his magic tie trick at 4'25"
            Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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            • Flay
              Full Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 5795

              #36
              And who is that ghost walking backwards behind him straight after that?
              Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26540

                #37
                Originally posted by Flay View Post
                And who is that ghost walking backwards behind him straight after that?
                It's a cardboard cutout of Georges Brassens... amusing... someone carrying one of those cardboard shop-window advertising photos.

                (Re: the tie - you're one of those people who has an eagle eye for continuity errors, are you?! I'm very slow to notice things like that!)

                I've always been curious to know which orchestra and which conductor are playing the Symph Fantastique later in the clip... I must remember to check the credits! (the rest of the film is available there - you can see HD2, HD3 & HD4 featured when that clip is finished, being the four segments - I think it's just 4)
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                  Late member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 9173

                  #38
                  er if you like downloads from amazon here is a real steal ..collected armonici for £20
                  According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                  • Thropplenoggin

                    #39
                    Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                    er if you like downloads from amazon here is a real steal ..collected armonici for £20
                    I was listing to Il Giardino Armonico's Four Seasons today...utterly entrancing, almost violent, reminded me of rock music in its use of quiet/loud dynamics. My BaL recommendation, if not CD Review's.

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26540

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                      I was listing to Il Giardino Armonico's Four Seasons today...utterly entrancing, almost violent, reminded me of rock music in its use of quiet/loud dynamics. My BaL recommendation, if not CD Review's.
                      It has long been the only one I listen to for pleasure - not least as it's the only one I own
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 9173

                        #41
                        i am very fond of Gidon Kremer with Abbado and the LSO in the Four seasons
                        According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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