Mozart's Sinfonia Concertante K364: recommended recordings please!

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  • Thropplenoggin
    • Nov 2024

    Mozart's Sinfonia Concertante K364: recommended recordings please!

    I'm new to this lovely piece, coming to it through Renaud Capucon's recording with Louis Langrée and the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. It sounds nice enough, though, as is often the case, a touch too much vibrato for my tastes.

    I wondered if anyone could recommend a recording worth buying. I don't have much Mozart at all (late symphonies*, various piano concertos, a few piano sonatas) only recently 'clicking' with him after immersing myself in all the many marvels (and interpretation possibilities) of Beethoven's oeuvre for two years' solid. Therefore, if the 'SC' came coupled with violin concertos, that could suit me, too.

    *I think I have Jayne Lee Wilson to thank for putting me on to Mackerras/Prague Chamber Orchestra by way of the 'Jupiter' BaL thread, so thanks for that: they're electric! Incidentally, in my search for a decent 'SC', I found one of Jayne's reviews - a Bruggen -er, no less, though that wasn't Bruggen's fault.
  • pastoralguy
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7759

    #2
    David and Igor Oistrakh with the Berlin Phil. is pretty good.

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    • LeMartinPecheur
      Full Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4717

      #3
      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
      David and Igor Oistrakh with the Berlin Phil. is pretty good.
      So is the Oistrakhs with the Moscow PO under Kondrashin in a very nice Decca twofer with David in the Bruch Scottish fantasia and the Hindemith Concerto (LSO/ Horenstein & Hindemith respectively): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bruch-Hindem...8171638&sr=1-1

      EDIT The O's also do a nice Mozart duo - K423 - to fill up the SC disc.
      Last edited by LeMartinPecheur; 20-09-12, 20:42.
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      • Parry1912
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 963

        #4
        Perlman and Zukerman
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        • Barbirollians
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 11686

          #5
          Originally posted by Parry1912 View Post
          Perlman and Zukerman
          I agree wholeheartedly - though I also have a soft spot for Menuhin/Barshai .

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          • Ferretfancy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3487

            #6
            I've loved this piece ever since two talented amateurs played it for us in the school library one evening sixty years ago. The two Oistrakhs with Kondrashin gets my vote as well, although I have an earlier issue coupled with Gervase de Peyer in the Clarinet Concerto. The Hindemith concerto mentioned above is special too.

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            • jayne lee wilson
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 10711

              #7
              Hi Throstles,

              Can't find Mackerras' Prague SO Jupiter anywhere here, only his SCO one, so credit some other musiclover with that... (IIRC I asked why no-one else had the Norrington live Salzburg one).

              Still stand by the Bruggen/Zehetmair/Killius as a lovable, sweetly and spaciously recorded favourite (if only it weren't albatrossed by mediocre vn. ctos), Abbado/Carmignola/Waskiewicz with Orchestra Mozart are a more radical alternative, phrasing more clipped, sonorities leaner, less warmly songful than Bruggen.

              I spent some silly money on the fim xrcd of Kondrashin with the Oistrakhs, and whilst it's beautifully played and Kondrashin is one of my heroes, the Moscow orchestral sounds bludgeoningly large! Too grand for the piece. (Those Hindemith and Bruch pieces are, as LMP says, glorious for the same reason, better recorded, and a total knockout on the XRCD.)

              Of older big band sounds, Szell and the Cleveland principals are top of my tree, with Davis/Grumiaux/Pellicia etc. a twig or two lower. Szell has just that bit more elegance and grace in his orchestral approach (and a better orchestra in that vintage).

              But as I've implied, I find it increasingly hard to listen to large modern symphony orchestras in this repertoire.

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22120

                #8
                Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                I've loved this piece ever since two talented amateurs played it for us in the school library one evening sixty years ago. The two Oistrakhs with Kondrashin gets my vote as well, although I have an earlier issue coupled with Gervase de Peyer in the Clarinet Concerto. The Hindemith concerto mentioned above is special too.
                I also like the two Oistrakhs with Kondrashin, but the Brandis Cappone Bohm is good as is the unavailable ( I had the LP) with Stern Zukerman and Barenboim, the Stamitz coupling was good too!

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                • Petrushka
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 12250

                  #9
                  If you want it with the Violin Concertos: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Compl...8176572&sr=1-1
                  "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                  • Barbirollians
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11686

                    #10
                    I see you don't like vibrato - so I better not recommend Sammons and Tertis !

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                    • verismissimo
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 2957

                      #11
                      Aside from the Bruggen, there's loads of wobbly stuff going on in these recommendations. Think we're not trying hard enough here.

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        #12
                        The version with Iona Brown and Nabuko Imai is full of that authentic wobbly stuff that Mozart's dad complained about. Quite ravishing.

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                        • mikealdren
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1200

                          #13
                          Amazing how we still choose older performances rather than more HIP.

                          My personal favourite is David Oistrakh with Barshai. Oistrakh was in his fabulous prime in the 1950s and fine as his viola playing was, I love his reading of the violin part. Barshai was excellent too!

                          Perlman and Zukermann don't generate the magic for me, nor Grumiaux (a real favourite).

                          Mike

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mikealdren View Post
                            Amazing how we still choose older performances rather than more HIP.
                            Well, there aren't that many, Mike!

                            I used to have the Perlman/Zuckermann on LP, but rarely played it (all that sweetness: worried about caries!). The Schroder/MacDonald on DHM, on the other hand is superb - revealing so many facets of the work that escape so many others I've heard.

                            Perlman and Zukermann don't generate the magic for me, nor Grumiaux (a real favourite).
                            Que? Grumiaux is "a real favourite" Because "it doesn't generate the magic"? in spite of not generating the magic? The "nor" should be "unlike"? Or "Grumiaux is a real favourite amongst violinists but in this work he doesn't generate the magic"?
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                            • mathias broucek
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1303

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                              The version with Iona Brown and Nabuko Imai is full of that authentic wobbly stuff that Mozart's dad complained about. Quite ravishing.
                              There's another one with her and Suk on Decca

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