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Beethoven's First Two Symphonies
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Originally posted by verismissimo View PostI just acquired the Konwitschny/Leipzig cycle which I had some of in previous decades. 1 and 2 are good and I'm generally liking the cycle as far as I have reached (Pastoral). But the scherzo in 5.
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Thropplenoggin
Originally posted by verismissimo View PostI just acquired the Konwitschny/Leipzig cycle which I had some of in previous decades. 1 and 2 are good and I'm generally liking the cycle as far as I have reached (Pastoral). But the scherzo in 5.
It deserves to be much more widely known.
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What are the chances of the Klemperer Beethoven box set on EMI inc. overtures piano concertos and Choral Fantasia with Barenboim coming down in price? It's currently £55 but the reviews from 2011 keep going on about what a bargain it is at £27.Last edited by Guest; 13-09-12, 20:13.
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rkyburz
Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post(...)
Vinteuil and FHG: in your enthusiastic endorsement of the HIPPsters, you have even convinced me to re-asses this modus operandi, Harnoncourt having dissuaded me from investigating further with regard to Beethoven's symphonies.
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Hogwood (1983) isn't all that bad, and so is Bernstein with the first symphony with both the NYPO and the VPO), for the second symphony Norrington beats him even in his older recording (LCP, 1986).
Now — that's more for the HIPPsters — to the ones that I really like: Norrington / RSO Stuttgart (2002), Zinman / Tonhalle Zurich (1998), and my favorite, Thomas Dausgaard / Swedish Chamber Orchestra (1999). So far, I have not listened to van Immerseel and Krivine — should probably look into those, too ... I also have not heard the Harnoncourt recordings, but will now refrain from doing so (thanks for that comment!)!
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Tend to agree with the recommendations for Jochum (EMI by a whisper from DG, then Phillips), Cluytens and Klemps. But I have to speak up for Celi in No 2. The most beautiful account of the slow movement you'll ever hear and the intro to i is pretty good as well. Not fast and no repeats, please note.Last edited by mathias broucek; 14-09-12, 10:47.
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Originally posted by mathias broucek View PostTend to agree with the recommendations for Jochum (EMI by a whisper from DG, then Phillips), Cluytens and Klemps. But I have to speak up for Celi in No 2. The most beautiful account of the slow movement you'll ever hear and the into to i is pretty good as well. Not fast and no repeats, please note.
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Originally posted by Roslynmuse View PostCoincidentally, have just been listening to Ansermet's 1 and 2 (Decca Eloquence). I'd listened to some of the others in the cycle and found them a bit heavy-handed but enjoyed these two greatly. This volume also has No 3 and No 4 plus a really quite eccentric Coriolan Overture.
I remember them from Ace of Diamonds LPs.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostAnsermet's was a dissapointing set - great Decca recordings but performances not living up to them except a great No9.
I remember them from Ace of Diamonds LPs.
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostAny idea as to the quality of the ANDROMEDA transfers of all 9 issued in 2010? The price of £20 on amazon.co.uk looks tempting:
- it's impossible to know which of 3 Eroicas is included. Even the HS discography at [w.ifastnet.com/hsd/] isn't clear. Despite thrilling moments the (in)famous, hi-speed, stereo Vienna SOO one has at least as many spills as thrills and the best is probably the 1950 Ultraphon VSO reading, which is what Tahra use. Otherwise, the Andromeda versions look well chosen with the RPO in 2, 4 & 8. The only variants with 1&2 are in a later mid-60s Lugano cycle - only rarely available.Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 14-09-12, 01:01.
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Thropplenoggin
Originally posted by rkyburz View PostThropplenoggin, I save you from my ratings of the "older" recordings (you wouldn't like them!), though I should say that I prefer Toscanini / NBC SO (1951) over Walter (CSO, NYPO), Furtwängler (SDR SO, VPO), Klemperer (Philharmonia), and certainly Böhm (VPO), but also Bernstein (NYPO, VPO) for the second symphony.
Hogwood (1983) isn't all that bad, and so is Bernstein with the first symphony with both the NYPO and the VPO), for the second symphony Norrington beats him even in his older recording (LCP, 1986).
Now — that's more for the HIPPsters — to the ones that I really like: Norrington / RSO Stuttgart (2002), Zinman / Tonhalle Zurich (1998), and my favorite, Thomas Dausgaard / Swedish Chamber Orchestra (1999). So far, I have not listened to van Immerseel and Krivine — should probably look into those, too ... I also have not heard the Harnoncourt recordings, but will now refrain from doing so (thanks for that comment!)!
I'll also be checking out Celi in 2 - though given his reputation for eccentric readings, a name I've always eschewed.
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Roehre
Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostOh God not again...
Think I'll start a Society for the Protection of Beethoven's 9th...
...and please don't say, oh, it's only the finale... you can't have the 9th without it. Sorry.
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