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  • Ariosto

    #16
    I'm in the South but looking North at the moment ...

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    • Ariosto

      #17
      Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
      "After four years, the dirt doesn't get any worse." (Quentin Crisp)
      They used to say that about Murdoch's screws of the world ...

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
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        #18
        Originally posted by Ariosto View Post
        They used to say that about Murdoch's screws of the world ...
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • Thomas Roth

          #19
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          Excellent! As you will have read (I've mentioned it in various places hereabouts) the first movement is the piece that got me into music

          I think that version remains one of my two favourites: the Ormandy/Philadelphia performance: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shostakovich...2823849&sr=1-9

          The other is Sanderling with the Berlin Phil - oddly listed on amazon under its coupling, Haydn's 82nd: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Symphony-No-...823674&sr=8-31

          There's a very good slightly under characterised but beautifully played Haitink one with the Concertgebouw which I've listened to a lot, but it doesn't reach as far inside the piece as either of the above, IMO. I have yet to hear Uncle Bernie's 2011 're-make' which has been much praised. In fact your question may prompt me to remedy that
          If you mean the Decca/Haitink it is with LPO. I like it a lot, but then I quite like my Shostakovich a bit "laid back".

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          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
            Gone fishin'
            • Sep 2011
            • 30163

            #20
            Originally posted by Thomas Roth View Post
            If you mean the Decca/Haitink it is with LPO. I like it a lot, but then I quite like my Shostakovich a bit "laid back".
            There are two recordings of this marvellous work conducted by Haitink: the first (from the late '70s) is with the LPO is almost unsurpassable. The second, from a Live concert with the Cocertgebeouw from a couple of years ago, surpasses it!
            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26458

              #21
              Originally posted by Thomas Roth View Post
              If you mean the Decca/Haitink it is with LPO.
              What a clot! Of course! Thanks for the reminder.

              Yes I like it a lot too.

              Ferney and anton appear to be in league to empty my wallet to the tune* of the recent Concertgebouw version...


              (*Duh-duh-duh Duh-duh-duh Duh-duh Duh Duh Duh..... )
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Thomas Roth

                #22
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                There are two recordings of this marvellous work conducted by Haitink: the first (from the late '70s) is with the LPO is almost unsurpassable. The second, from a Live concert with the Cocertgebeouw from a couple of years ago, surpasses it!
                The second is with the Chicago Symphony on their own label.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Thomas Roth View Post
                  The second is with the Chicago Symphony on their own label.
                  ???Is this a third recording, then:


                  EDIT: There may be some confusion, here: the Thread started with a mention of the Fourth Symphony, but Anton introduced the Fifteenth in his first post, and it was the Fifteenth that Cali referred to in the post to which you replied about the LPO not the RCO to which I put in my ha'pennyworth ....

                  They get very clogged up these boards at times!
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Nick Armstrong
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    ???Is this a third recording, then:


                    EDIT: There may be some confusion, here: the Thread started with a mention of the Fourth Symphony, but Anton introduced the Fifteenth in his first post, and it was the Fifteenth that Cali referred to in the post to which you replied about the LPO not the RCO to which I put in my ha'pennyworth ....

                    They get very clogged up these boards at times!

                    That's true. I think Thomas is talking about the 4th (his comment about the earlier Haitink having been with the LPO applies equally to the 4th as it does about the 15th which is how I took it! )

                    It's all ANTON's fault!!!

                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • Thomas Roth

                      #25
                      Yes the fourth. Sorry, are you talking about No 15? I´ve missed that completely. So let me star anew, and when it comes to No 15 I absolutely love the LPO version and, as has been said before, it is only bettered by the Concertgebouw recording on RCO Live. So sorry for mixing it all up. I will read more carefully in the future.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #26
                        Apology unneccesary, Thomas - I did wonder when Anton mentioned "Shostakovich's last and best Symphony" if he was making a barbed comment about the quality of Nos 5-15!

                        Totally agree with your comments - and I had forgotten/was unaware that Haitink had re-recorded the Fourth on the CSO label!
                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • BBMmk2
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20908

                          #27
                          You going to buy the Chicago recording as well then Caliban?

                          You may need a few more pints of Shepherd Neame Spitfire!!
                          Don’t cry for me
                          I go where music was born

                          J S Bach 1685-1750

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