The music of William Walton

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  • Richard Tarleton

    #16
    HS, I was at the first performance by your old friend Julian Bream of the Bagatelles on 21 January 1973 in the QEH. There's an amusing passage in Bream's book "A Life on the Road", in a passage about commissioning works from composers:

    I got short shrift not too long ago from old Willie Walton. He wrote five superb Bagatelles for me back in the early seventies, but somehow he'd convinced himself I don't play them often enough. I've been begging him, almost, to do me another piece, so on his last visit to London I presented myself at his hotel to be given a stern but gentle lecture about my responsibilities. I felt a bit like a naughty little schoolboy who'd been playing truant, and although I acquitted myself well, I left with the distinct impression that he thought I'd been trying to pull a fast one.

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    • BBMmk2
      Late Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 20908

      #17
      Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
      Seems he has joined the massed ranks of neglected British composers.

      My favourites -
      1st Symphony LSO Previn.
      Belshazzar Previn.
      Symphonies 1 & 2 LSO/LPO Sir Charles MacKerras.

      T

      I am particularly fond of his chamber music-

      The piano and string quartets recording is oine of my favourite chamber music cds! What's the Mackerras recording like?
      Don’t cry for me
      I go where music was born

      J S Bach 1685-1750

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      • EdgeleyRob
        Guest
        • Nov 2010
        • 12180

        #18
        Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
        What's the Mackerras recording like?
        Excellent to my ears BBM, although no 1 is probably not in the same league as Previn.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #19
          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
          Excellent to my ears BBM, although no 1 is probably not in the same league as Previn.
          Sums it up perfectly, IMO, Rob.

          To be fair to everyone who's recorded the Walton 1st Symphony and been told that theirs is "very good, but not as good as Previn/LSO", this is true also of Previn's re-make with the RPO in the '80s. That '60s recording was just one of those special occasions in recording history where everything went exactly as it should !
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          • Hornspieler

            #20
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Sums it up perfectly, IMO, Rob.

            To be fair to everyone who's recorded the Walton 1st Symphony and been told that theirs is "very good, but not as good as Previn/LSO", this is true also of Previn's re-make with the RPO in the '80s. That '60s recording was just one of those special occasions in recording history where everything went exactly as it should !
            I have a great affection for Malcolm Sargent's recording of Symphony NÂş 1 with the Philharmonia Orchestra, not least because a good few of my friends were playing on that recording.

            HS

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            • Barbirollians
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 11752

              #21
              Didn't the Sargent have the misfortune to come out at the same time as the Previn and its qualities were underrated as a result . Now available again in a 5CD British Composers box coupled with Previn's second Symphony and marvellous Belshazzar's feast

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              • Bryn
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 24688

                #22
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                Didn't the Sargent have the misfortune to come out at the same time as the Previn and its qualities were underrated as a result .
                It did indeed, though as I recall the relative merits and demerits of the two recordings divided opinions at the time. I went for the Previn and only got round to the Sargent a year or two ago. Essential listening for Walton fans, I'd say.

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                • Parry1912
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 965

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hafod View Post
                  No contents yet but herewith a new Walton Collector's Edition (whatever that means).


                  Just noticed that it is cheaper at Amazon.
                  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sir-William-...xgy_m_h__img_b
                  Cheaper still at Sainsbury's:
                  Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”

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                  • visualnickmos
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3614

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                    I've always been a Walton fan...
                    And LOVE his chamber music.

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                    • hafod
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 740

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Parry1912 View Post
                      Substantially so!! It is very difficult getting one's mind to associate classical music with Sainsbury's. Should we be looking at other supermarkets or are these sites also as hit and miss to search as Sainsbury's?

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                      • Thomas Roth

                        #26
                        There are quite a few great recordings of the first symphony besides Previn/LSO. Thomson, Haitink, Handley ... Also, I much prefer the RPO/Previn of Belshazzar´s Feast to his earlier with LSO. Walton was a truly great composer and I love his later pieces.

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                        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                          Gone fishin'
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 30163

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Thomas Roth View Post
                          There are quite a few great recordings of the first symphony besides Previn/LSO. Thomson, Haitink, Handley ...
                          ... and Slatkin, Mackerras, Daniel (Boult, anyone? ... Karajan??) ...
                          In fact, can anyone think of a duff recording of this tremendous work?

                          It's just that the first Previn has (for me) that little bit extra.
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                          • Nick Armstrong
                            Host
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 26572

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            ... and Slatkin, Mackerras, Daniel (Boult, anyone? ... Karajan??) ...
                            In fact, can anyone think of a duff recording of this tremendous work?

                            It's just that the first Previn has (for me) that little bit extra.
                            Karajan?! That's just a dream, no? He never conducted it, did he?

                            I agree about the piece and the versions (though I haven't ever heard the Sargent, and now want to).

                            And yet, and yet, and yet... No version has ever quite ticked all the boxes compared with the performance I hear in my head... The woodwind at the start are not quite jazzy enough; or the timps not quite percussive enough; or the gongs and cymbals not quite splashy enough... I think there's still room for a performance to top the lot.

                            I'll just have to learn how to conduct...

                            "...the isle is full of noises,
                            Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                            Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                            Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                              Gone fishin'
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 30163

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                              Karajan?! That's just a dream, no? He never conducted it, did he?
                              Unless this is an elaborate April Fools' jape:



                              I agree about the piece and the versions (though I haven't ever heard the Sargent, and now want to).

                              And yet, and yet, and yet... No version has ever quite ticked all the boxes compared with the performance I hear in my head... The woodwind at the start are not quite jazzy enough; or the timps not quite percussive enough; or the gongs and cymbals not quite splashy enough... I think there's still room for a performance to top the lot.

                              I'll just have to learn how to conduct...

                              You may laugh: I'd buy it!


                              EDIT: Hold on! The Philharmonia and Legge but issued by Deutsche Grammophon?! Has to be a spoof?
                              But this isn't:

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                              • Thomas Roth

                                #30
                                The one on DG is a fake, but he did it with an Italian orchestra, with some cuts. A fantastic performance.

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