Originally posted by french frank
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There is simply no way that even an English person could 'hear' a 'c' in 'll' in the two syllables of 'llyfrgell' (pronunciation attached)
The correct method of producing the authentic 'll' sound has already been given in EA's msg #73. Anything else is a fudge, pure and simple. English people who sneer and giggle when they hear another person mispronounce the French 'u' or German ü are for some reason quite content to affect 'cl' for 'll'. There's no call for it.
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