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I was just going to say that all they are famous for now is sacking people who criticise Israel. -
I'd have to put in an additional nomination for Haitink's recording of Vaughan Williams's "Sea Symphony" - probably over the years the LPO recording I've listened to more than any other (including on a beach, at night, alone, in Polynesia
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"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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It is this type of unhelpful and uninformed comment that drove me away from these columns....Originally posted by Ariosto View PostComment
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Absolutely! And Boult's Brahms too!Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
Please let's try to stay away from the politics....Comment
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I agree - Boult's Brahms here (one with the LSO), politics on Platform 3, please.Originally posted by mathias broucek View Post
There are so many terrific LPO recordings, studio and live, Boult in VW older and newer, Beecham, Tennstedt, Van Beinum (Elgar Cello Concerto with Pini, and come to think of it, VC with Campoli/Boult), Haitink and so on. The forthcoming Boult Icon box will fill a few gaps I have. Oops, left out Solti/Elgar Symphonies, Jochum/Haydn - top 10, you say?Comment
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But "trying to stay away from the politics" is itself a political act, mathias.Originally posted by mathias broucek View Post
I would simply state that the "happy" birthday celebrations of this great orchestra can only be made less "happy" by the over-reactions of its Managing Board, and this I think is a terribly sad state of affairs: I would prefer to join the party more whole-heartedly.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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I usually agree with most of your views expressed on these boards fgh (including, as it happens, on this issue), but I have to say that I don't understand this reaction to mb's request. I took mb to be no more than suggesting that we kept the political issues out of this thread and concentrated on suggesting "top ten" LPO recordings here. Which isn't to say that the political aspects of LPO's recent (well, nearly a year old now) actions don't merit discussion on other threads or boards (as they have been, quite extensively).Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
I don't see anything political about such a suggestion, but then nor do I see why disagreement with previous management actions should prevent consideration and celebration of the orchestra's musical accomplishments....no doubt a naive view to some.
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I must say I heartily agree with your post, RolmillOriginally posted by Rolmill View PostI usually agree with most of your views expressed on these boards fgh (including, as it happens, on this issue), but I have to say that I don't understand this reaction to mb's request. I took mb to be no more than suggesting that we kept the political issues out of this thread and concentrated on suggesting "top ten" LPO recordings here. Which isn't to say that the political aspects of LPO's recent (well, nearly a year old now) actions don't merit discussion on other threads or boards (as they have been, quite extensively).
I don't see anything political about such a suggestion, but then nor do I see why disagreement with previous management actions should prevent consideration and celebration of the orchestra's musical accomplishments....no doubt a naive view to some.
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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I certainly didn't wish to imply an aggressive or hostile reaction to mb himself. I would love to mention all the wonderful recordings (primarily of 20th Century British Music, it emerges) I own and concerts I've attended by the LPO. But the "LPO4" affair is the elephant in the room at this party (and, therefore, on this Thread) that I think it impossible (and, from my own point of view, disrespectful) to ignore.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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Whereas I agree that certain actions by certain individuals over a certain matter were reprehensible, it is unreasonable (in my view) to disrupt all discussion of performances by the orchestra in question which took place long before the current situation arose.
If you want to continue making the political point please would you do so on a competing thread. Your options to show your diapproval are numerous.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.Comment
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I suppose what it comes down to is that I think that to obliterate the achievements of so many players and conductors due to a passing recent controversy is belittling to all the musicians whom this thread seeks to celebrate.Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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"Obliterate"? Me?! I'm only little!
The 1950s Boult RVW Symphonies; the Solti Elgars; Tennstedt's Live Mahler; Haitinck's RVW cycle; the 1990s Birtwistle concerts; Glyndebourne.
It would take a bigger, better man than I to "obliterate" just those achievements![FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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