Bleeding chunks ?

[umslopogaas]

Ferretfancy, the Price Guide is edited by Barry Browne and published by Sylverwood Publishing, PO Box 315, Newton Abbot, TQ12 4BT. I have always hoped for an updated edition, but I fear they have gone out of business: you might track down a secondhand one, though.

[Ferretfancy]

Ferretfancy, the Price Guide is edited by Barry Browne and published by Sylverwood Publishing, PO Box 315, Newton Abbot, TQ12 4BT. I have always hoped for an updated edition, but I fear they have gone out of business: you might track down a secondhand one, though.

I've just discovered it on Amazon, paperback at £335 ! I don't think so, life should always have a few mysteries!

[umslopogaas]

£335?! HOW much? B****y hell, I paid £22.49 for mine when it was in print. I must treat it with more reverence.

Tell you what, if there are any items where you'd like me to look up the suggested 2006 values, just post details. It has Decca (LXT, SXL2000s, SXL6000s, SET), Lyrita (SRCS), RCA (SB2000s and SB6000s), HMV (ALP, ASD 3 digit, ASD 4 digit, SLS, SAN), Mercury (AMS) and Columbia (33CX and SAX). No DG or Philips.

I also have an 'Audiophile Record Collector's Handbook' by Phil Rees (6th ed. 1999). It has complete lists of RCA, Mercury, Decca, EMI, Columbia and includes the american RCA and Mercury as well as the english ones. However, it is just a set of lists, no values.

You wouldnt have a good condition, first label copy of Columbia SAX2253 (Encores, with David Oistrakh and Yampolsky), would you? One just sold on ebay for £1007. It is incredibly rare, in twenty years of burrowing round secondhand records shops I've never seen it, but even so, that is a lot of money for an old LP.

[Ferretfancy]

umslopogaas,

Thanks for the further information, I've just ordered the Phil Rees from Amazon, it will still be a useful resource. Sadly, I don't have SAX2253, only the CD reissue on Great Recordings of the Century, I presume it's the same one, titled The Devil's Trill.

[reinerfan]

FF, have you got a link for the Paray disc? The very first classical LP I ever had (Fontana SFL14051) included a Dutchman Overture, Meistersinger and Gotterdammerung excerpts from Paray and the Detroit SO. I badgered my mother to get it for my 16th birthday in June 1970 and the rest, as they say, is history.

Some of the Wagner items are on a disc from Pristine (PASC 241) coupled with a very feisty reading of Brahms 4. The chunks are Tannhäuser & Meistersinger Overtures, Ride of the Valkyries and Preludes to Act I & III of Lohengrin. The usual Pristine magic has been worked with the transfers.

[verismissimo]

There has been some great Wagner conducting of bleeding chunks

Somewhere between bleeding chunks and the real thing, I've been enjoying this two CD set of "Der synphonische Ring" from the Duisburger Philharmoniker under Jonathan Darlington, recorded in 2009:

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/SESSIONID/7791ff024eeb5ee3eb8bf5765eff6ec4/classic/detail/-/art/Richard-Wagner-1813-1883-Der-Symphonische-Ring/hnum/6575949

[Barbirollians]

Is that not just lots of bleeding chunks sewn together ???.

[cloughie]

The Greatest Hits of Puccini was made up completely of orchestral arrangements by André Kostelenitz: hearing some singers nowadays, this might be a practice worth restoring!

Ferney, I'm not alone then, the overdone vibrato, bad intonation and generally unpleasant sounds. Also I often think it sad that so many Opera composers wrote so much opera and so few purely orchestral pieces, often not even a decent overture. The Chailly Puccini orchestral bits disc has some beautiful music on it.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B000GUJZTQ/sr=1-3/qid=1337081942/ref=olp_tab_all?ie=UTF8&colid=&coliid=&me=&qid=1337081942&seller=&sr=1-3

[Norfolk Born]

I would recommend Karl Anton Rickenbacher & the LPO on CFP, but it now costs more than I paid for it - the current asking price is ca. £8 on both Amazon and ebay. Very good recorded sound (All Saints Church Tooting, March 1983), but you only get 48 minutes of music.

[hafod]

There has been some great Wagner conducting of bleeding chunks - Boult's 1970s recordings come to mind and without bleeding chunks how are novices going to get to know his music ?

I bought the Boult on HMV Classics for 1p some months ago and it is wonderful. Two copies still available at that price -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Ride-Valkyries-Other-Favourites/dp/B000027KBC/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337088132&sr=1-2

Has Meistersinger and Dutchman overtures, Tristan and Lohengrin Act III preludes, Siegfried Idyll, Dawn and Siegfried's Rhine Journey and Funeral March and the inevitable Ride.

Excerpts? Bleeding chunks? I couldn't care less although I have to say that they sound pretty self-contained to me.

[Ferretfancy]

[QUOTE=hafod;162261]I bought the Boult on HMV Classics for 1p some months ago and it is wonderful. Two copies still available at that price -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wagner-Ride-Valkyries-Other-Favourites/dp/B000027KBC/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337088132&sr=1-2

Has Meistersinger and Dutchman overtures, Tristan and Lohengrin Act III preludes, Siegfried Idyll, Dawn and Siegfried's Rhine Journey and Funeral March and the inevitable Ride.

If the Boult Wagner discs have not been issued on CD, it's high time that they were. I have four volumes on LP, dating from 1972, with interesting sleeve notes recalling his early days, including memories of Nikisch. All the music from Parsifal is particularly fine, as are the Forest Murmurs and the extracts from Lohengrin., and the LPO are superb.

[Pabmusic]

If the Boult Wagner discs have not been issued on CD, it's high time that they were.

They've been on CD for years; my copies are from the early 90s. This set seems to be available now:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Overtures-Preludes-Boult-Richard-Wagner/dp/B000064862/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337169905&sr=8-1

[Barbirollians]

There is a marvellous Furtwangler record of bleeding chunks on Testament - the Lohengrin prelude in particular is outstanding.

[Barbirollians]

Just listening to Boult in Wagner again this evening . Quite superb in the Flying Dutchman and Meistersingers Overtures ,and a thrilling but far from overblown Ride of the Valkyries.

A shame he so seldom conducted in the opera house . His wagner conducting seems a cut above many famous and lauded Wagner conductors - the tedious duo of Goodall and Knappertsbusch come to mind.

[AmpH]

Just listening to Boult in Wagner again this evening . Quite superb in the Flying Dutchman and Meistersingers Overtures ,and a thrilling but far from overblown Ride of the Valkyries.

I have not heard these recordings, but ordered the discs a few days ago and am looking forward to listening to them when they arrive, hopefully very soon.