Paul Watkin's new recording of the Elgar 'cello concerto.

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  • pastoralguy
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    • Nov 2010
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    Paul Watkin's new recording of the Elgar 'cello concerto.

    I came across this CD this afternoon and have ordered it from Amazon. Am expecting it tomorrow. The BBC Phil. is conducted by Sir Andrew Davies.

    Has anyone heard it yet?
  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    I hope it isn't as dull as his opening night of the Proms performance of a couple of years back .

    He said he was inspired by a reticent Tortelier /Boult like approach to the music but to my ears it so drained the work of meaning and emotion that I was sent rushing back to the Du Pre/Barbirolli ! Indeed he made Navarra soun gushing.

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    • Alison
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      Sir Andrew is incapable of dullness.

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      • Barbirollians
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        • Nov 2010
        • 11688

        #4
        Not sure I agree with that Alison - try his Dvorak 6

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        • Mr Pee
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          • Nov 2010
          • 3285

          #5
          Paul Watkins gives a superb performance of the Elgar Cello Concerto for Andrew Davis – the best to have appeared on disc for years, writes Andrew Clements


          I think I might order it myself!!

          Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

          Mark Twain.

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          • reinerfan
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            • Nov 2010
            • 106

            #6
            Originally posted by Alison View Post
            Sir Andrew is incapable of dullness.
            That may well be live but, unfortunately, he is far too often on disc.

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            • Alison
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              5 stars from Andrew Clements is a very rare accolade.

              Like he says, he does rumbustiousness very well.

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 11688

                #8
                Not for me - the Delius concerto record was good but seriously overrated by some critics and I suspect the same of this record.

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                • PJPJ
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1461

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                  Not for me - the Delius concerto record was good but seriously overrated by some critics and I suspect the same of this record.
                  The sound clips of the Elgar are very promising and I think both Delius releases are superb.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                    The sound clips of the Elgar are very promising and I think both Delius releases are superb.
                    Well we will have to differ . I prefer Pougnet and Holmes by far to Little and Watkins sounds rather prosaic next to du Pre

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                    • Mr Pee
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3285

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      Well we will have to differ . I prefer Pougnet and Holmes by far to Little and Watkins sounds rather prosaic next to du Pre
                      You seem to have made up your mind already, despite not having heard the recording, not to mention the 5 star review from the Guardian.
                      Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                      Mark Twain.

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                      • PJPJ
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 1461

                        #12
                        I think Barbirollians is referring to the Delius rather than the Elgar. It is a matter of taste to the greater extent, isn't it? For what it's worth I think Watkins captures the spirit of Delius more than du Pre does.

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Exactly PJ I do not tend to like Davis in Elgar and I suspect I will not like this if it is like their Proms performance

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                          • PJPJ
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1461

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            Exactly PJ I do not tend to like Davis in Elgar and I suspect I will not like this if it is like their Proms performance
                            Today's Times refers to that Proms performance saying Watkins' introspection and the Albert Hall didn't work. It was also extremely hot*. The reviewer does make the point it's not like the Proms performance.

                            We're at opposite poles here - I really do love the live Elgar 2 with Davis and the Philharmonia.

                            *Heaven knows how they cope - I can't in the audience, due to my health (I don't have enough of it).

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                            • Chris Newman
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 2100

                              #15
                              Originally Posted by Alison

                              Sir Andrew is incapable of dullness.
                              Originally posted by reinerfan View Post
                              That may well be live but, unfortunately, he is far too often on disc.
                              I find that Sir Andrew often plays things very fast without much sense of colour. I agree that it is rare for AC to give five stars in The Grauniad.

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