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  • Pianorak
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3128

    #31
    Originally posted by Basil View Post

    Reminded by this thread that I have this disc, I just tried and only the Op.106 is still intact, the Op.111 has gone...rats!
    Played the Op. 111 - perfect, which probably means the Op. 106 has gone. Must check later.
    My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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    • Basil

      #32
      Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
      Played the Op. 111 - perfect, which probably means the Op. 106 has gone. Must check later.
      Should be ok, they went from the outside, so the last tracks on the disc were the first to go, I don't suppose you could send me a copy of the Op.111? I can provide evidence I have the CD?

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      • Pianorak
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3128

        #33
        Originally posted by Basil View Post
        I don't suppose you could send me a copy of the Op.111?
        Yes, of course. But need instructions (in words of on syllable) how to set about it.
        My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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        • Basil

          #34
          Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
          Yes, of course. But need instructions (in words of on syllable) how to set about it.
          It's really easy, well, fairly easy. Do you use a Mac or a PC?

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          • Pianorak
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            • Nov 2010
            • 3128

            #35
            I use a PC.
            My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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            • Bryn
              Banned
              • Mar 2007
              • 24688

              #36
              Oh dear. I just tried ripping my copy and despite there being no visible signs of 'bronzing', it started having problems about half way through the Adagio sostenuto of Op. 106. I am using Exact Audio Copy (free) and it eventually gave up on that track. It gets nowhere with the later tracks, so any help with at least 'tracks' 3, 4, 5 and 6 available would be very welcome here. I find RapidShare very useful for private sharing. Just extract the audio, make FLAC or APE files of the resulting WAV files, zip them up with something like BitZipper and load them up to the free service on RapidShare (ignoring all entreaties to pay into the 'no waiting' service). Downloads can involve a lot of waiting, but get sorted eventually. The relevant URLs for the download(s) can be made available by means of Personal Messages to those you wish to share with, and the files can be removed from RapidShare when you wish the facility for downloading them to be withdrawn.

              In the meantime I am now using an Alesis Masterlink in a further attempt to back up what I can from the CD. The Masterlink tends to transfer the whole thing, 'warts and all' so the last few tracks are likely to sound pretty awful.
              Last edited by Bryn; 21-12-10, 14:33. Reason: Update.

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              • Pianorak
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3128

                #37
                Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                . . . I find RapidShare very useful for private sharing. Just extract the audio, make FLAC or APE files of the resulting WAV files, zip them up with something like BitZipper and load them up to the free service on RapidShare (ignoring all entreaties to pay into the 'no waiting' service). Downloads can involve a lot of waiting, but get sorted eventually. The relevant URLs for the download(s) can be made available by means of Personal Messages to those you wish to share with, and the files can be removed from RapidShare when you wish the facility for downloading them to be withdrawn.
                Bryn - Not sure if that is directed at me. If so - hmm, sounds all double-Dutch or possibly Serbo-Croat to me. I'm afraid I'm a complete idiot when it comes to this kind of technology. Maybe Basil will come up with something which is a bit easier, failing which it might be easier to pop the CD in the post and let you and/or Basil get on with it. - Will have to log off for a couple of hours now - but will be back!
                My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                • Bryn
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 24688

                  #38
                  It was not originally aimed specifically at you, Pianorak, but after posting it thought you might find some of it useful.

                  The programs you need are Exact Audio Copy, FLAC Frontend and FLAC itself. All are freeware. You will need to read the relevant information, on the FLAC site just linked to, regarding installing FLAC for the version of Windows (or other Operating System) you are using.

                  I think you will find Exact Ausio Copy (EAC) and FLAC Frontend pretty intuitive to use. Once you have ripped the CD with EAC and made FLAC files of the 6 tracks with FLAC Frontend, you can either upload them separately to somewhere like Rapidshare, or use a programme like BitZipper to put them all in a single zip file and upload that. How you name the (files) you upload is up to you, but it might be worth considering names not typically associated with music downloads, (something along the lines of "106_111.zip" for instance).

                  Anything you don't immediately grasp, just ask (by PM if you prefer).
                  Last edited by Bryn; 21-12-10, 15:08. Reason: Typos

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                  • johnb
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2903

                    #39
                    Bryn,

                    You can set EAC to encode to FLAC without using "FLAC Frontend" as a separate process.

                    If you step through the Configuration Wizard, there is an option to use various forms on compression - one of those is FLAC.

                    EAC\Configuration Wizard

                    (For each track - EAC writes a temporary file, calls FLAC to encode the track then deletes the temporary file.)

                    It also has the advantage that it automatically sets the tags in the FLAC file.

                    That is what I do anyway!

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                    • Basil

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Pianorak View Post
                      Bryn - Not sure if that is directed at me. If so - hmm, sounds all double-Dutch or possibly Serbo-Croat to me. I'm afraid I'm a complete idiot when it comes to this kind of technology. Maybe Basil will come up with something which is a bit easier, failing which it might be easier to pop the CD in the post and let you and/or Basil get on with it. - Will have to log off for a couple of hours now - but will be back!
                      I think that would be the easiest solution, but it would be best to confirm the CD is ok first, listen carefully to the last tracks for any repetitive noise, which will be either ticks or a swooshing noise.

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                      • Basil

                        #41
                        Bryn,

                        The first movement of the Op.106 is on it's way, albeit slowly!, to Rapidshare, I'll pm you a link.

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                        • Pianorak
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3128

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Basil View Post
                          . . . it would be best to confirm the CD is ok first. . .
                          Have listened to the op. 106 now as well - all tracks seem in pristine condition, which is the good news.
                          Now for the bad news: Sorry to say my eyes began to glaze over the minute I started on Bryn's instructions. If either you or Bryn would like to pm me a postal address I'll put the CD in the post (after Xmas most likely).
                          My life, each morning when I dress, is four and twenty hours less. (J Richardson)

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                          • Basil

                            #43
                            Pianorak,

                            No problems, pm on the way.

                            ps,

                            I've managed to get a clean rip (copy) of the Op.106 from my CD, and have uploaded this to Bryn.
                            Last edited by Guest; 21-12-10, 17:07.

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                            • amateur51

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Basil View Post
                              If you have this CD, Volume 2 No.7 of the BBCMM cover discs, rip it onto a computer asap, as it is one of the infamous PDO discs, prone to corrosion.

                              Reminded by this thread that I have this disc, I just tried and only the Op.106 is still intact, the Op.111 has gone...rats!
                              Oh dear, I suddenly feel rather poorly!

                              I know that I have a copy somewhere but I can't put my hand on it straight away.

                              Don't panic, Cap'n Mainwaring, don't panic!!

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                              • Steerpike
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 101

                                #45
                                Thank you amateur51 - I found the Vogel/Beethoven on Amazon and grabbed it as you recommended. Given the later comments, it'll be interesting to hear how much of it is playable.
                                It's good to know that Edith Vogel's playing is so well regarded. She wasn't always at her best in public concerts, I imagine she suffered from nerves because, although the inspiration was there, so often were quite a number of wrong notes.

                                Going back to my #25, does anyone know if the Joyce Hatto D960 is really her? Last time I looked at the usual Hatto sites it wasn't listed as a known rip-off.

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