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  • Mahlerei
    • Nov 2024

    Gramophone's new 'specialist chart'

    Be sore amazed....

  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30301

    #2
    No 3 already - most people would hardly have imagined it had been released yet. Way to go, Sony!

    "To see the full Specialist Classical Chart for this week, complete with buy-buttons ..."

    Waaahh! Where the buy-buttons on the Breakfast website, then?
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • doversoul1
      Ex Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 7132

      #3
      Originally posted by french frank View Post
      No 3 already - most people would hardly have imagined it had been released yet. Way to go, Sony!

      "To see the full Specialist Classical Chart for this week, complete with buy-buttons ..."

      Waaahh! Where the buy-buttons on the Breakfast website, then?
      Go to BBC homepage, click on Breakfast and follow the link

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      • VodkaDilc

        #5
        I feel relieved to have no contact with that magazine any more. The letter I received this week was my "last" chance to renew my subs, "since I had not responded to previous letters". I had, telling them exactly what I thought of the decline, but I don't suppose a computer would realise that.

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        • silvestrione
          Full Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 1708

          #6
          We've been over this ground before I know, but it's worth saying again that Gramophone, for all its current faults, still has the best, most experienced, most reliable and knowledgeable reviewers, some examples, Richard Osborne, David Gutman, Stephen Plaistow, Bryce Morrison, etc

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          • Serial_Apologist
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 37691

            #7
            It's welcome to see Roussel's "Le Festin de L'Araignee" high up that poll, though - one of my favourite works of this composer.

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            • EdgeleyRob
              Guest
              • Nov 2010
              • 12180

              #8
              Originally posted by Mahlerei View Post
              Blimey, 1,467 people like this !

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              • PJPJ
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1461

                #9
                I wonder how many specialist shops there are, producing this chart. (I assume that's from where the statistics come.)

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                • Panjandrum

                  #10
                  Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                  We've been over this ground before I know, but it's worth saying again that Gramophone, for all its current faults, still has the best, most experienced, most reliable and knowledgeable reviewers, some examples, Richard Osborne, David Gutman, Stephen Plaistow, Bryce Morrison, etc

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30301

                    #11
                    Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
                    I wonder how many specialist shops there are, producing this chart. (I assume that's from where the statistics come.)
                    "How do you create the charts?

                    The vast array of retailers supplying data provide us with information of all the sales they have made on a daily basis. These files are collated every day by our partner company Millward Brown - one of the world's most respected market research companies - and matched against databases of products (music and video) held by Millward Brown. The results of this process are verified throughout the week to ensure there are no errors in the data, before the final charts are published on Sunday. The end of week charts reflect all sales which have been reported from 00.01 Sunday, through to midnight Saturday.

                    Where do you collect sales from?

                    The simple answer is all significant retailers. These retailers span independent stores, high street chains, supermarkets, internet mail order and download services. As a result, we estimate that we capture around 99% of all singles sold, 98% of all albums and over 90% of all videos/DVDs.

                    Do you count downloads?

                    Yes, we have counted music downloads since 2004, within a couple of months of iTunes launching in the UK, when digital music was still a tiny proportion of all music sales." http://www.theofficialcharts.com/faqs/
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • Parry1912
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 963

                      #12
                      Originally posted by silvestrione View Post
                      We've been over this ground before I know, but it's worth saying again that Gramophone, for all its current faults, still has the best, most experienced, most reliable and knowledgeable reviewers, some examples, Richard Osborne, David Gutman, Stephen Plaistow, Bryce Morrison, etc
                      I've no desire to criticise Gramophone's panel of reviewers (although I think Bryce Morrison's stock fell following the Joyce Hatto business). However, to use a footballing analogy: Gareth Bale, Aaron Ramsey and Craig Bellamy are superb footballers but they are unlikely to play in a World Cup as part of the current Wales team.

                      For me, IRR is the Spain of classical recording magazines.
                      Del boy: “Get in, get out, don’t look back. That’s my motto!”

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                      • Barbirollians
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 11688

                        #13
                        I glanced through Gramophone at a station today - horribly cheaply produced and looked like someone had guillotined it too closely on the right hand side of the page part of a photo inside was missing.

                        Still full of guff despite the relaunch .

                        On the other side of the coin at least they have not employed one of my least liked reviewers Michael Jameson as IRR have . I tend to disagree with every review from him .

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                        • VodkaDilc

                          #14
                          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                          I glanced through Gramophone at a station today - horribly cheaply produced and looked like someone had guillotined it too closely on the right hand side of the page part of a photo inside was missing.

                          Still full of guff despite the relaunch .

                          On the other side of the coin at least they have not employed one of my least liked reviewers Michael Jameson as IRR have . I tend to disagree with every review from him .
                          I've never heard of Mr Jameson, so you've got me scurrying to the latest IRR to do some late-night reading. However, since he seems to be reviewing Vivaldi and Ernst (who?), I'll probably be asleep before I've finished. Look on the bright side: the last duff reviewer they had only lasted about three editions. I wrote in complaint and I bet others did too. The IRR reviewers who contribute here know the full story, but lips appear to be sealed!

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                          • VodkaDilc

                            #15
                            Originally posted by Parry1912 View Post

                            For me, IRR is the Spain of classical recording magazines.
                            I think this could be a sporting analogy - but it's completely lost on mere musicians like me. Is it a compliment?

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