Kleiber/Kubelik - Demigod

[Karafan]

Carlos Kleiber has always been right up there in the pantheon of conductorial gods for my money.

Being ever the completist, I recently added his Orfeo live Dvorak 7 to my existing 8th and 9th symphonies on that label (which I enjoy together with his BPO box). I popped it in the player tonight more to check the disc played OK (as it was a 'pre-owned' purchase) and was astonished by what a truly blistering performance it is. The washing up went unfinished, I can tell you!

I did buy the Davis 8th when it recently secured itself the BaL title, but already had the CK among many, many others. Sorry Rob (Cowan) - old Sir Colin cannot hold a candle to Carlos Kleiber and the Orfeo recording also knocks spots off the LSO live disc. But as for that 7th, now that really is something else.......

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

If Carlos is a demi-god, Erich is surely a god.

[mathias broucek]

There are loads of other live 7ths, some of them are INSANELY fast in the finale but thrilling all the same.

The Orfeo 4th is well worth getting.

BTW the most unexpected live Kleiber I have is Butterworth's First English Idyll with the Chicago SO!!!!

[Barbirollians]

Agreed and I love his Unfinished more than any other . As for that splendid La Traviata ...

I have never heard of these Dvorak recordings and there is no sign of them on the usual suspects ?

[Karafan]

Amazon's weird search engine again, I suspect Barbirollians! Try searching under "orfeo dvorak" (I know, I know )

[Barbirollians]

Kubelik is indeed a Dvorakian demigod !

[Karafan]

Sorry folks - must have had a minor brainstorm there in my title line! I was meaning to type Kubelik but as I was emailing a friend at the same time about CK the two got muddled! (Note to self: no multi tasking now the years are clearly taking their toll). Sorry for those I have sent off scuttling away for imaginary discs!!

CK is of course a demigod, that no sane man or woman can dispute, but it was that superb Dvorakian Rafael Kubelik I was supposed to be lionising in this thread!! (Can FF change the title line, I wonder...?)

Time for bed, I think (slinks off in shame).

[mathias broucek]

There's an Orfeo 6th too and a really nice Orfeo Mozart 40 and 41

Has anyone else pirchased the Kubelik box on Sony Classical Masters?

[Stanfordian]

Carlos Kleiber has always been right up there in the pantheon of conductorial gods for my money.

Being ever the completist, I recently added his Orfeo live Dvorak 7 to my existing 8th and 9th symphonies on that label (which I enjoy together with his BPO box). I popped it in the player tonight more to check the disc played OK (as it was a 'pre-owned' purchase) and was astonished by what a truly blistering performance it is. The washing up went unfinished, I can tell you!

I did buy the Davis 8th when it recently secured itself the BaL title, but already had the CK among many, many others. Sorry Rob (Cowan) - old Sir Colin cannot hold a candle to Carlos Kleiber and the Orfeo recording also knocks spots off the LSO live disc. But as for that 7th, now that really is something else.......

Hello karafan,

I have Carlos Klieber's new release on Hanssler Profil PH11031 of him conducting the Hamburg RSO in Telemann's Suite in B flat major and CPE Bach's cello concerto. The recordings were made in 1960 and the disc contains an interview with him in German. The booklet notes state these were his "earliest documented" concerts. It is unusual, I think, for him to conduct baroque music This Klieber disc is not for me, I'm afraid. I might put it on Amazon UK.

[french frank]

To save any further confusion I'm going to close this thread - and amend the title.

Perhaps Karafan might like to try again for more relevant responses?

[To explain closure further - people just reading the OP will go off in the wrong direction if they don't read further down the thread. And some contributions are now irrelevant, moreso with the change of title]