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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post... I wonder if Beethoven wd ever have considered them as 'a cycle'.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post.
... I wonder if Beethoven wd ever have considered them as 'a cycle'.
Were they not rather separate responses to creative imperatives at various points and very different times in his life?
He was surely a 'different' person in 1795-1800 from how he was in 1822-1824.
[I see Wyn Morris's survey of the '10' symphonies was released as a boxed set last year, with revised notes by Barry Cooper re. the '10th':]
Update.Last edited by Bryn; 31-05-18, 09:06.
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Post.
... I wonder if Beethoven wd ever have considered them as 'a cycle'.
Were they not rather separate responses to creative imperatives at various points and very different times in his life?
He was surely a 'different' person in 1795-1800 from how he was in 1822-1824.
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Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostI would think that the idea of a "symphony cycle" began in relation to Beethoven's work, fairly soon after his death.
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Originally posted by vinteuil View Postperhaps it was with the proto-Carlylean view of Beethoven as the first 'Composer As Hero' that this way of perceiving an artist's life-work - the 'totality of the journey' in the words of the Original Poster - takes root.
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Originally posted by richardfinegold View PostCertainly he underwent changes in the decades between 1 and 9, as any of us do. However I would argue that the distance traveled between early and late Piano Sonatas and String Quartets is greater than that of the Symphonies.
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostDoes that not dimiss the seismic jump to the Eroica!
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Originally posted by verismissimo View PostCurrently much in love with the BPO/Cluytens 'cycle' on Erato from the late 1950s. (Haven't listened to the 9th, however.)Don’t cry for me
I go where music was born
J S Bach 1685-1750
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Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View PostFrom what a friend was saying, this is very special cycle. I haven’t listened yet, but will in due course.
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Originally posted by richardfinegold View PostMmm, to my mind the composer of the Eroica is still recognizable as the Composer of Symphonies 1/2. I struggle to see the same person of the Quartet Op.18/3 in Op. 131. or the author of the Pathetique Sonata in Op. 106 or Op.111.
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