Beethoven Symphony Cycles

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  • LHC
    Full Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1554

    #31
    Dave2002,

    The Karajan set with the Philharmonia was recorded in the 1950s and is indeed in mono. Looks a bargain, although personally I think HvKs best set was the first he recorded with the BPO in the early 1960s.
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    • Bryn
      Banned
      • Mar 2007
      • 24688

      #32
      Originally posted by LHC View Post
      Dave2002,

      The Karajan set with the Philharmonia was recorded in the 1950s and is indeed in mono. Looks a bargain, although personally I think HvKs best set was the first he recorded with the BPO in the early 1960s.
      Which is not a patch on the set recorded by the same orchestra under Cluytens direction a year or two earlier.

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      • jayne lee wilson
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 10711

        #33
        Nearly bought the Krivine after hearing part of the cycle via medici last Spring, all of your comments make me wish I had. So it's back in the Amazon basket (again). How to justify... when Mum needs new hearing aids.

        How one's feelings change... after the pastoral thread I took out Szell's 6th, but found it terribly slow and heavy - just too BIG a sound. I find I always want period instruments, or at least smaller chamber orchestras now, in Beethoven, Haydn and so on. The largest of the conventional orchestras I can still enjoy would be Norrington's Stuttgart RSO or (as is by now well-known!) Scherchen with RPO or VSOO. The latter always sounds swift, sharp, fresh and never too weighty or too richly Romantic. But with much depth and character too.

        I guess I'll have to find the cash for Krivine sooner or later.

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        • amateur51

          #34
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Nearly bought the Krivine after hearing part of the cycle via medici last Spring, all of your comments make me wish I had. So it's back in the Amazon basket (again). How to justify... when Mum needs new hearing aids.
          I got my NHS digital hearing aids free, jayne lw - and pretty good they are too

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          • Barbirollians
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11657

            #35
            Three years on the Bruggen is back in circulation now he is no longer with us coupled with the Violin Concerto and his recordings of the Creatures of Prometheus .

            So far what a joy these performances are - now that is what HIPP should sound like- a proper performance and not just revelling in their sonorities . so far 1,2 and 7 have all been superb NO 1 in particular had to play it again immediately . The much praised ZEhetmair performance of the violin concerto however did not appeal on first hearing .

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908

              #36
              I recently bought the re=mastered DG set of Abbado conducting the LvB and very good it is too! The best imo.
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              • visualnickmos
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3609

                #37
                Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                ..... The much praised Zehetmair performance of the violin concerto however did not appeal on first hearing .
                Certainly NOT 'up there' with many others. It just doesn't seem to get out of second gear. No 'vif' too bland.

                Give me Kogan, Oistrakh, Zukerman, Szering, Krebbers et al, anyday......

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                • cloughie
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 22107

                  #38
                  Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                  Certainly NOT 'up there' with many others. It just doesn't seem to get out of second gear. No 'vif' too bland.

                  Give me Kogan, Oistrakh, Zukerman, Szering, Krebbers et al, anyday......
                  Heard the 2nd done by LGO/Masur on CFM Full Works on Monday evening - good playing and sound but to my ears the larghetto is too fast (OK you HIPP guys will no doubt say that's what Beethoven's metronome says but I prefer it a little more leisurely.

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                  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                    Gone fishin'
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 30163

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                    I recently bought the re=mastered DG set of Abbado conducting the LvB and very good it is too! The best imo.
                    VPO or BPO, Bbm?
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                    • Pabmusic
                      Full Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 5537

                      #40
                      Does anyone know the old ASV Hickox set? I've liked that since it appeared.

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                      • cloughie
                        Full Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22107

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                        Does anyone know the old ASV Hickox set? I've liked that since it appeared.
                        YES

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                        • Pabmusic
                          Full Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 5537

                          #42
                          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                          YES
                          Very pleased to hear it!

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                          • gurnemanz
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7376

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
                            Now what about Konwitschny? That too now seems available in the UK - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Beethoven-Co...1964257&sr=1-1 A few years ago that was only available from non UK sites.
                            You gave me a nudge there, Dave. Before my time, but he is a legend in Leipzig, still much talked about. My wife's home town. I have one rather threadbare LP (East German Eterna label). There's a good deal at jpc. I think I'll go for it. 18.98 Euro incl postage.

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                            • Alison
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6448

                              #44
                              What a fine Pastoral from Andrew Manze the other night.

                              One day he will surely deliver a 'cycle' worth having.

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                              • Alison
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 6448

                                #45
                                Ah yes, the old Hickox set. When released almost all other modern instrument recordings were still slow and heavy.

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