Beethoven Symphony Cycles

[BBMmk2]

I heard Gunther Wand’s cycle, quite recently, and I think, this could possibly be the best out there. In the top five, at any rate.

[Barbirollians]

Hysterically Uninformed Ponderous Performance? No, the acronym was, I think, expanded when first introduced on this forum as Historically Uninformed Performance Practice.

I don’t think that is fair in Chailly’s case - it is his interpretation historically informed practice that flawed his Eroica with its much too fast Marcia funebre. Sounded like they were all glad the hero was dead !

[Barbirollians]

Just started on another cheaply purchased set the NYPO/Bernstein a very charming First and his well known Eroica. His relatively brisk allegro con brio at the time doesn’t sound at all fast to me. Very fine .

[richardfinegold]

I may have missed it during my hiatus, but has any one praised the completion of the Jordi Savall cycle? I had received 6-9 a few weeks ago for me this the historically informed cycle that I prefer. Yes, the tympanist sounds like he had to many double espressos, but interventional percussion has always been a Savall trait

[Bryn]

. . . interventional percussion has always been a Savall trait

As it was of Beethoven, I would venture.

[cloughie]

As it was of Beethoven, I would venture.

‘appen!

[Cockney Sparrow]

I may have missed it during my hiatus, but has any one praised the completion of the Jordi Savall cycle? I had received 6-9 a few weeks ago fandango for me this the historically informed cycle that I prefer. Yes, the tympanist sounds like he had to many double espressos, but interventional percussion has always been a Savall trait

I didn't pay too much attention, but there was a lot of discussion about these CDs - around its HIPP as against any other status - for the symphonies, but I couldn't point you to which thread (if its not this one?) (With a name like Jordi Savall and comparitively recent time frame the search function on this board may return useful results, for once.

[Bryn]

Savall's Beethoven symphonic survey is discussed at various points in this thread: http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...631#post871631

[Barbirollians]

Been enjoying reacquaintance with the LCP/Norrington so far - 1,2,4 and 8 as fine as remembered . The Eroica bright and exciting but the Funeral March rather superficial.

[richardfinegold]

Been enjoying reacquaintance with the LCP/Norrington so far - 1,2,4 and 8 as fine as remembered . The Eroica bright and exciting but the Funeral March rather superficial.

I really dislike that cycle. There are so many preferable HIP cycles-Savall, Hogwood, Bruggen, JEG, just to name a few

[Barbirollians]

I really dislike that cycle. There are so many preferable HIP cycles-Savall, Hogwood, Bruggen, JEG, just to name a few

Harsh !

I prefer the early Bruggen and do not know the Savall but I prefer Rog to the JEG and Hogwood efforts.

[BBMmk2]

I really dislike that cycle. There are so many preferable HIP cycles-Savall, Hogwood, Bruggen, JEG, just to name a few

I do too. Mind you, I don’t like Gardiner’s p, either.

[Pulcinella]

I do too. Mind you, I don’t like Gardiner’s p, either.

But what about his mp and mf, BBM?
Are they OK?

[BBMmk2]

But what about his mp and mf, BBM?
Are they OK?

Indeed not. I’m afraid.

[richardfinegold]

Harsh !

I prefer the early Bruggen and do not know the Savall but I prefer Rog to the JEG and Hogwood efforts.

I agree, those Norrington recordings sound very harsh now, especially after one has listened to other HIP versions by conductors that are musicians and not ideologies with stopwatches