Originally posted by verismissimo
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Beethoven Symphony Cycles
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Originally posted by Bryn View PostFor me, it beats the famous set Karajan recorded with the same orchestra a few years after. I was lucky enough to get it in the 50 CD French EMI Beethoven Collector's box, twice. The first box cost me around £40. The second was a no-brainer at £5 in an HMV sale.
Is the set available separately?Don’t cry for me
I go where music was born
J S Bach 1685-1750
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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The sheer length of this blended thread is a little confusing, but I would once more promote the exceptional intereptative interest of Hermann Scherchen's mono 1950s cycle, the combined LPO (2,4,5,8)/VSO (3) /VSOO(1, 6, 7, 9) one.
Various reissues but if you can find the TAHRA set, you'll find excellent sounding transfers too. This dos NOT, BTW include the later, hair-raisingly fast and very untidy VSOO stereo Eroica. For which relief etc. The brisk stereo 6th from the same time is much better, if just a little too severe, à la HIPPs avant la lettre...
Suffice to say that Beecham's band have terrific power and virtuosity; the Vienna ensembles that warm, woody, marvellously "old-Vienna" sound, strings most especially... so you do get a more varied interpretative result than in many complete, single-orchestra cycles.
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There's a kind-of Furtwangler cycle. But whilst there's a wide take-your-pick choice on the later symphonies, there's only one badly recorded version of number 2.
The 107 CD boxset includes the following:
No. 1 - Concertgebouw (July 1950)
No. 2 - VPO (October 1948)
No. 3 - VPO (November 1952)
No. 4 - VPO (December 1952)
No. 5 - BPO (May 1947)
No. 6 - VPO (November 1952)
No. 7 - VPO (January 1950)
No. 8 - BPO (April 1953)
No. 9 - Bayreuth Restival Chorus and Orchestra (June 1951)
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So many live alternatives with Furtwangler - some of them utterly marvellous like that Philharmonia Ninth the summer of 1954 at Lucerne.
My favourite cycle at present is the Philharmonia/Karajan of the 1950s - there is such freshness to it and amazingly good mono sound with a duplicate stereo 9 .
This set includes another Beethoven 7 to refresh one's ears and of course the greatest recording of the Pastoral ever - IMHO.
Presto in their Warner and Erato box set sale are selling this set for only £10.70 !!! Buy buy buy .
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Originally posted by Barbirollians View PostSo many live alternatives with Furtwangler - some of them utterly marvellous like that Philharmonia Ninth the summer of 1954 at Lucerne.
My favourite cycle at present is the Philharmonia/Karajan of the 1950s - there is such freshness to it and amazingly good mono sound with a duplicate stereo 9 .
This set includes another Beethoven 7 to refresh one's ears and of course the greatest recording of the Pastoral ever - IMHO.
Presto in their Warner and Erato box set sale are selling this set for only £10.70 !!! Buy buy buy .Don’t cry for me
I go where music was born
J S Bach 1685-1750
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Originally posted by cloughie View PostHMV in the late fifties but now Erato in France courtesy of the Warner inheritance and very much part of the mostly good big Cluyens box. The set had a LP reissue on LP withe the annoyances of Sym 4 being split over 2 sides with the break being between the 3rd and 4th mvts meaning too long a gap between movements and the ninth having the split part-way through movt 3. As performances they were all excellent!
I've always had a soft spot for these recordings and bought the CD set for a song in Paris in the 90s.Steve
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Originally posted by Stunsworth View PostSome of the earliest classical LPs I bought were from the reissues on Classics for Pleasure in the 70s.
I've always had a soft spot for these recordings and bought the CD set for a song in Paris in the 90s.
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Originally posted by Alison View PostI see a new one is due from Nelsons and the Vienna Philharmonic.
Wasn’t the same conductor supposed to recording the cycle with CBSO?Don’t cry for me
I go where music was born
J S Bach 1685-1750
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Originally posted by Alison View PostI see a new one is due from Nelsons and the Vienna Philharmonic.
Wasn’t the same conductor supposed to recording the cycle with CBSO?
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Originally posted by Zucchini View PostThey did, live performances (mainly?) for Orfeo in Symphony Hall. They were binned before release when he moved to Boston & left Orfeo for DG. I attended most - sounded wonderful.
The VPO set will be worth sampling but it would have been good to have the CBSO on disc. Maybe Mirga and DG will put things right.
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Originally posted by Alison View PostI see a new one is due from Nelsons and the Vienna Philharmonic.
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Originally posted by CallMePaul View PostJudging from the excerpts played on Record Review last Saturday, these are traditional, measured performances that will please some members of the forum much more than they did me. I am happy to stick with Norrington and Mackerras in complete cycles.
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