Beethoven Symphony Cycles

[Roehre]

Has anyone ever heard the Beethoven 10th movement live in concert?
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Yes, in 1988 and 2010

[Barbirollians]

Splutter - I do not agree that the Walter Columbia Pastoral is lethargic . It is a classic ! Up there with Bohm,Boult,Kletzki,Cluytens , Kleiber pere et fils and Szell( the Szell is fabulous

[cloughie]

One cycle that I've hardly ever seen mentioned, or to be found in charity shops, is Antal Dorati's with the Royal Philharmonic.

Yes - an excellent set - not been out on CD yet but should be!

[cloughie]

So - did you mean "eight and threequarters"?

Yes.

No point in including the Battle Sym!

[cloughie]

Yes, in 1988 and 2010

Was the '88 Weller? That must have been about the time he did the CBSO cycle in the old Town Hall.

[Roehre]

Was the '88 Weller? That must have been about the time he did the CBSO cycle in the old Town Hall.

Yes, it was Weller.
the other one a regional Belgian orchestra: Liège Philharmonic IIRC.

[akiralx]

Ooh! That's a different, earlier set (NYPO rather than the later Columbia SO) - and a bit pricier than the SONY set (unless the MP3 versions are acceptable):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005HO1WG0

Similarly there is a really good set of his mono Brahms symphonies on Sony with the NYPO which is more urgent than the later Columbia SO.

[pastoralguy]

Splutter - I do not agree that the Walter Columbia Pastoral is lethargic . It is a classic ! Up there with Bohm,Boult,Kletzki,Cluytens , Kleiber pere et fils and Szell( the Szell is fabulous

Only my opinion...

[HighlandDougie]

Yes - an excellent set - not been out on CD yet but should be!

Like many other slightly obscure Beethoven cycles (Joseph Keilberth for example), it's available in Japan. I looked at it in Tower Records (it wasn't very expensive) but struggled to remember anything very positive being said about it at the time so I didn't buy it. Perhaps I shouldn't have been so hasty in my judgement.

[cloughie]

Like many other slightly obscure Beethoven cycles (Joseph Keilberth for example), it's available in Japan. I looked at it in Tower Records (it wasn't very expensive) but struggled to remember anything very positive being said about it at the time so I didn't buy it. Perhaps I shouldn't have been so hasty in my judgement.

The set was on DG but spearheaded by the 5th being on a Contour LP. It was a really good performance and a contemporary and much rival to the Carlos Kleiber on DG. The other notable Contour issue at the time was the Del Mar Enigma and P&C Marches which also ended up on DG.

[Barbirollians]

The other notable Contour issue at the time was the Del Mar Enigma and P&C Marches which also ended up on DG.

Released on Eloquence this month .

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

AFAIK there are at least 4 recordings of this Cooper piece based on Beethoven's sketches for 10.

I was only aware of the Wyn Morris and the Walter Weller. The former is rather good - spacious and convincing, but I found the latter to be rushed: "It's not proper Beethoven, so let's get it over and done with".

[Beef Oven!]

I've been listening to the JEG, Hogwood, Norrington, Krivine, Goodman/Huggett and Antonini (except #9) symphony cycles and really enjoy the more modern approach.

I fancy adding another set to my collection and was thinking od Bruggen's 2011 live Rotterdam set or the van Immerseel with Anima Eterna.

Does anybody have a view on the merit of these recordings, or can offer a steer?

[MickyD]

I've been listening to the JEG, Hogwood, Norrington, Krivine, Goodman/Huggett and Antonini (except #9) symphony cycles and really enjoy the more modern approach.

I fancy adding another set to my collection and was thinking od Bruggen's 2011 live Rotterdam set or the van Immerseel with Anima Eterna.

Does anybody have a view on the merit of these recordings, or can offer a steer?

I got hold of the Anima Eterna recordings when they first came out - haven't played them much since, but I enjoyed them a lot, I do remember. I tend to find Bruggen too slow for my taste in Haydn, but don't know how he approaches Beethoven.

Despite all the blemishes, I still love that old Hanover Band set. I must be one of the few people who like the cavernous Nimbus recording acoustic!

[Beef Oven!]

I got hold of the Anima Eterna recordings when they first came out - haven't played them much since, but I enjoyed them a lot, I do remember. I tend to find Bruggen too slow for my taste in Haydn, but don't know how he approaches Beethoven.

Despite all the blemishes, I still love that old Hanover Band set. I must be one of the few people who like the cavernous Nimbus recording acoustic!

Funny enough, for the first time last night, I found the Hanover recording 'cavernous'. It had never really occurred to me before - must be because I have played so many sets in close succession that the comparison becomes more obvious.