Beethoven Symphony Cycles

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  • HighlandDougie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 3073

    Originally posted by Bryn View Post
    It's a pity that his LSO set has not made it to SACD, DVD-A or Blu-ray in surround format.
    Indeed - the Tower Records Japan Definition Series SACD box is, if my memory of inspecting it in Tokyo is correct, firmly 2-channel. Multi-channel SACDs are, I suspect, a bit infra-dig for Japanese audiophiles.

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    • Dave2002
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      • Dec 2010
      • 18005

      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
      On the contrary, it's very easy to keep the book in near pristine condition. It just needs to be treated with reasonable care.
      Depends what you mean by "near pristine". Mine is only a day or two old, but you can tell that I've opened many of the pages as they no longer stick together as they once did. Someone really picky might object to that.

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      • richardfinegold
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 7628

        Originally posted by Dave2002 View Post
        Very interesting box, though the CD "cases" are not great - carboard sleeves which doesn't even allow the CDs to come out easily. I didn't expect a lot of the material in the collection. The book which comes with it has some rather unexpected details - schedules of recordings etc. There are quite a number of 78 rpm transfers - presumably that's what they are.

        I'm not sure if it's exhaustive - I'd have to check further. I have some of the other boxes with Walter as conductor - which also have several different versions of what are now well known symphonies, particularly the ones by Mahler. Of course the box doesn't have any of the works with non American orchestras. I always liked this one with the VPO- https://www.discogs.com/Mozart-Vienn...elease/2884909 -VPO Mozart K525 which I'm amazed to discover dates from 1937. I think I have a couple of the 78s in my cupboard still, though naturally I don't have working equipment to play them!
        The Fanfare reviewer commented on the difficulty extracting the discs. I haven’t found it as difficult as you and he did. I have found that once initially extracted, on repeat playing the extraction is easier. I like Petrouchka glove suggestion, but honestly, I have always found that soap and water works for fingerprints on CDs, with no sonic detriment.

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
          • 11655

          Recordings I have long heard of but never heard are the Weingartner recordings .
          Picked up a couple of the Naxos remasterings and what a joy they are .

          No’s 1,2,7 and particularly 8 - very straightforward and very modern sounding as a result really refreshing after the Adam Fischer mannerisms.

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          • mikealdren
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 1195

            Travelling in the car yesterday, I switched to Radio 3 to be greeted by a fabulous performance of the first movement of the 7th symphony. I listened transfixed and was not surprised to hear it was Carlos Kleiber. John Elliot Gardiner had some interesting views on HIPP but his performances, for me, didn't justify his comments, they were unmemorable.

            The biggest surprise was the last movement of the 7th with Zinman, probably my favourite cycle. It was very rigidly metronomic, it didn't dance and I didn't like it at all. Must listen again today.

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20568

              As I said recently, tomorrow is (probably) Beethoven 250 day, so I'm repeating my 16.12.1970 pilgrimage of the complete symphony cycle. Since that day, 50 years ago, Barry Cooper has done a realisation of the first movement of the 10th symphony, so I'll be including that as well.
              Only one version (Erich Kleiber's Eroica) will be the same recording as last time.

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              • Barbirollians
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                • Nov 2010
                • 11655

                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                As I said recently, tomorrow is (probably) Beethoven 250 day, so I'm repeating my 16.12.1970 pilgrimage of the complete symphony cycle. Since that day, 50 years ago, Barry Cooper has done a realisation of the first movement of the 10th symphony, so I'll be including that as well.
                Only one version (Erich Kleiber's Eroica) will be the same recording as last time.
                Which Erich Kleiber Eroica Concertgebouw or VPO ?

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                • visualnickmos
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3609

                  Last few days, in a random order, I've been spinning Muti's set with the Philadelphia. Time well spent. Lively and fresh-sounding.

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11655

                    Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                    Last few days, in a random order, I've been spinning Muti's set with the Philadelphia. Time well spent. Lively and fresh-sounding.
                    No 7 is very fine I think in the Muti set.

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                    • visualnickmos
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3609

                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      No 7 is very fine I think in the Muti set.
                      Something to savour, later today! Haven't spun that one yet..... There are many mighty fine LvB 7s in various sets; Solti / Chicago for one....

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        I’m having Gardner’s Beethoven Box Set, for Christmas, so can’t wait to hear hear the symphonies.
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • richardfinegold
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                          • Sep 2012
                          • 7628

                          Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                          Something to savour, later today! Haven't spun that one yet..... There are many mighty fine LvB 7s in various sets; Solti / Chicago for one....
                          The Solti is my favorite Seventh

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                          • Alison
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6448

                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            The Solti is my favorite Seventh
                            Is that first or second Chicago cycle please?

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              Originally posted by BBMmk2 View Post
                              I’m having Gardner’s Beethoven Box Set, for Christmas, so can’t wait to hear hear the symphonies.
                              Not a boxed set for me. The bonus disc and the Violin Concerto with its Ottavio Dantone cadenzas are the only recordings in the set that I do not already have. So. currently streaming is that Mullova performance of Op. 61.

                              Anyway, BBNmk2, ate you aware of this: https://monteverdi.co.uk/john-eliot-...ven-symphonies
                              Last edited by Bryn; 16-12-20, 13:34. Reason: Update

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                              • cloughie
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                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22107

                                Originally posted by Alison View Post
                                Is that first or second Chicago cycle please?
                                There’s also the VPO 3 5 & 7!

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