What recording can you always tell who is playing ?

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  • Lordgeous
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    • Dec 2012
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    #16
    This leads to something I've been pondering over recently: does anyone get more enjoyment from a live concert being able to see what's going on rather than just listening? Obvious example being the Proms. I know I do. Historically of course the only way one got to hear music was to see it as well. Only in relatively recent times, with the invention of sound recording, has one been able to just listen. Somehow I don't feel the same about sound recordings, of which I have a large collection.

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    • Bryn
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      • Mar 2007
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      #17
      Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
      This leads to something I've been pondering over recently: does anyone get more enjoyment from a live concert being able to see what's going on rather than just listening? Obvious example being the Proms. I know I do. Historically of course the only way one got to hear music was to see it as well. Only in relatively recent times, with the invention of sound recording, has one been able to just listen. Somehow I don't feel the same about sound recordings, of which I have a large collection.
      What about Wagnber's hiding of the orchestra at Bayreuth?

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      • Lordgeous
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        • Dec 2012
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        #18
        Never been a Wagnerite, but opera is different, surely?

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        • Bryn
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          • Mar 2007
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          #19
          Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
          Never been a Wagnerite, but opera is different, surely?
          "opera"? I thought Wagner composed "music-dramas".

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          • gradus
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
            I agree that older recordings of both orchestras and soloists, primarily pianists, sound more distinctive. Claudio Arrau and Anne Fisher had very distinctive sonorities. The Philadelphia Orchestra under Stokie or Ormandy sounded very different in the pre Muti era. Golden Age Violinists were more individual sounding. Even the Auer pupils were very individualistic. No one would ever confuse Heifetz with Milstein, for example
            Re violinists Nigel Kennedy has made the same point; the loss of individuality that seems to go with the teaching at some leading conservatories.

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            • smittims
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              • Aug 2022
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              #21
              I think if you're not used to listening to sound-only, or if you're learning about classical music, it does help concentration and appreciation if you see the performaers as well as hear them. But thinking about what you say in the context of the recordings I've just been listening to, I wish there'd been a camera at those sessions . We sometimes see still-photos of studio sessions (Eric Auerbach was a master at these ) but they only whet my appetite for seeing what actually went on.

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              • MickyD
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                In the 1970s and 80s, I could always identify recordings made by the Academy of Ancient Music under Christopher Hogwood compared to other period bands. They had such a distinctive sound.

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                • JasonPalmer
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                  • Dec 2022
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                  #23
                  I sometimes recognise certain violinists, they can have very distinctive playing.
                  Annoyingly listening to and commenting on radio 3...

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                  • Ein Heldenleben
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                    • Apr 2014
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                    #24
                    Listening to R3 earlier to a superb performance of The William Tell overture with truly wonderful string playing. I thought this is one of the great orchestras . The Berlin Phil , LSO ? Then I thought maybe a really good opera orchestra like the Royal Opera House - they’ve really got this music in their bones. Turned out to be the Academy Of St Martin In the Fields under Sir Neville . They were one of the greatest …

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                    • Wolfram
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                      • Jul 2019
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                      #25
                      I can think of five singers who you would never, ever mistake for another; Jon Vickers, Peter Pears, Peter Schreirer, DF-D and Hans Hotter.

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                      • Lordgeous
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                        • Dec 2012
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Wolfram View Post
                        I can think of five singers who you would never, ever mistake for another; Jon Vickers, Peter Pears, Peter Schreirer, DF-D and Hans Hotter.
                        Ah singers. Easier. Bjorling & Patzak & probably Baker.
                        Last edited by Lordgeous; 23-05-23, 19:37.

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                        • Lordgeous
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                          • Dec 2012
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                          #27
                          How about French Horn players? Can one always recognise the great Denis Brain? And organists must be virtually impossible!

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                          • Ein Heldenleben
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                            • Apr 2014
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Lordgeous View Post
                            Ah singers. Easier. Bjorling & Patzak & probablyh Baker.
                            Also instantly distinguishable-Pavarotti, Domingo, Ferrier , Schwarzkopf , Callas, Caruso , Sutherland , V de L A, etc etc .

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                            • pastoralguy
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                              • Nov 2010
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                              #29
                              I can usually identify Jascha Heifetz, Yehudi Menuhin, Ida Haendel and Igor Oistrakh.

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                              • smittims
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                                • Aug 2022
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                                #30
                                I always listen out for Dennis Brain; it's always a treat to hear him play a solo in an orchestral work. But I disagree about organists. Schweitzer is pretty easy to spot, and many experienced listeners find Helmut Walcha had his own touch.

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